On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Thomas Jefferson <myd...@mailbox.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to use my ledger nano s and trezor with Qubes. I think the best
> approach, since I need to attach the entire USB controller for this to
> work, would be to use the existing sys-usb. However by default the sys-usb
> is not connected with any NetVM, hence I don't know if this would increase
> my attack vector.
> What's the safest way to use trezor or ledger nano s with Qubes?
>
> Should I use the sys-usb or should attach the USB controller to a
> different AppVM and use my HW wallet there? (The latter option will
> invalidate the use of my mouse, so if any other option is available, I'd
> glad hear it)
>
>
I had to buy a working expresscard usb controller and then reboot. But if
you do not have the slot or do not want the extra hassle/battery
consumption probably the best way is to connect sys-usb to sys-net. At the
end they are both considered compromised, so which is the risk of
connecting them? That sys-usb can spread its malware using  sys-net? Unless
you use usb block devices for strategic/important things, which is not
advised, then it seems an acceptable risk.

Regarding specifically Trezor and I suppose also Ledger, they are supposed
to be safe even if the hardware on which they are mounted is compromised.
So even a compromised sys-usb may be acceptable.
Best
Fran

> Thanks
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