On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 4:13 PM, cooloutac <raahe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 12:26:35 PM UTC-4, PR wrote:
> > Hello
> >
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> >
> > Am 21.07.2017 9:39 vorm. schrieb "Noor Christensen" <
> kchr+qub...@fripost.org>:
> >
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> > The IRC channels are unofficial, and should probably continue to be so
> >
> > since we already have the mailing lists as our official means of
> >
> > communication.
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> > Agreed, Mailinglist and  Qubes Docu are perfect to look for answers.
> > The only (maybe) missing part would be a quick start guide for
> beginners, adressing the most relevant tasks (referencing to the
> documentation).
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> > People will continue joining the #qubes channel (or another one) and ask
> for help, no matter if we are there or not. I think it's a great way to
> >
> > introduce new users to the project and point users with questions or
> >
> > answers to the offical docs and lists for further discussion.
> >
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> > If there is an IRC channel, I think it should be clearly mentioned on
> the website as asking via IRC might be a lower barrier for newbies.
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> >
> > - PhR
>
> Qubes should not associate themselves with freenode or irc.   That's just
> my opinion. Nobody with self respect or integrity has taken freenode
> serious for over 10 years.  It should stay unofficial.
>
>  I think google forums are a lot easier to use then installing some irc
> client or connecting to a webchat, where the only people there are
> criminals or spammers who want to exploit you or the network.  No moderator
> can help, freenode can't even protect themselves.  The wolves bully that
> hen house.  Any IRC channel should stay unofficial imo.  Freenode and its
> communities are the sole reason Linux is unpopular.  Its a ghost town full
> of idle bots for a reason.
>
> Its one of the most dangerous  places to connect to, besides online games,
> some porn sites, and darknet sites like silk road.     I mean come on, it
> was hilarious how it was portrayed on Mr. Robot,  but they were not that
> far off.
>
> Even though they brought back tor support, which is a catch22 for them,
> (although you would need a special tor setup, standard setups dont' work)
> Recommending people go to freenode is like leading sheeps to slaughter.
>
>
Well it seems that all groups are using Slack now. It is easy to use and
works well. Have a look.
Best
Fran


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