On 12/19/2017 01:04 PM, cooloutac wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 10:05:49 AM UTC-5, Vincent Adultman wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>>
>>
>> We were chatting today in IRC about current user expectations and 
>> experiences with the 4 release candidates. While many are happily testing 
>> there are indeed some visitors who drop by with the requirement of a daily 
>> driver stable system, but have some newer hardware than the kernel on the 
>> current 3.2 iso will support. These users seem to be in a somewhat painful 
>> position, the bravest are attempting to build their own isos or perform some 
>> cross install using a machine that will work. Some fail / give up.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/ suggests that at some point 
>> a 3.2.1 release was/is planned, h01ger suggested to me all focus is 
>> currently on 4, but can I ask:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. What are the current plans for 3.2.1? (if it was planned to be anything 
>> other than an updated iso)
>>
>> 2. Regardless of 1. is there a possibility of getting an updated 3.2 iso for 
>> Christmas, given that some will undoubtedly use the holiday time to try 
>> Qubes, quite possibly on shiny new hardware :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your time.
>>
>>
>>
>> V
> 
> sounds like an inherent linux problem,  not much qubes can do about that.

A number of the problems encountered by people trying to install R3.2 on
newer hardware would be avoided if the installation ISO contained a more
recent version of the linux kernel.

For example, see:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/qubes-users/fE2HCAdF-U0/eLovum3xAgAJ

That's what the OP was asking about, if I'm reading it correctly.

I completely support and appreciate the work of the Qubes team.  I can
imagine that updating R3.2 at the same time as finalizing R4 would be
asking a lot.  But with the extended support for R3.2[1] driven by the
new minimum hardware requirements, and also considering the lack of a
management GUI, I suspect that the value of a newer R3.2 ISO will become
clear.

Yes, count me as a technically-savvy person who uses the Qubes Manager
GUI continuously.  However, the Qubes team should not take this as a
criticism.  I understand the need to prioritize, and I don't disagree
with the decisions that were made.  But I do wonder to what extent the
lack of a GUI will slow the adoption of R4.

[1]
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2016/09/02/4-0-minimum-requirements-3-2-extended-support/

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