On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 8:15:50 AM UTC-4, John Maher wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 6:15:43 AM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
> > On Mon, September 10, 2018 6:28 pm, John Maher wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 10:15:49 AM UTC-4, John Maher wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 10:12:52 AM UTC-4, John Maher wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 9:45:33 AM UTC-4, unman wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 09:31:09AM -0700, John Maher wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 9:42:02 AM UTC-4, unman wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 05:24:24AM -0700, John Maher wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 8:20:40 AM UTC-4,
> > >>>>>>> higgin...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> tried ---
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> sudo qubes-dom0-update
> > >>>>>>>> --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=reinstall
> > >>>>>>>> qubes-template-debian-9
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Again it appears to reinstall - message appears saying
> > >>>>>>>> successfully installed.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Then try to start DEBIAN-9 VM and get
> > >>>>>>>> "ERROR:VM directory does not exist:
> > >>>>>>>> /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/debian-9".
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Help!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I just did a fresh install of Qubes OS 4.0 on new hardware
> > >>>>>>> and I'm having the exact same problem. None of the
> > >>>>>>> suggestions here have resulted in any change, although I did
> > >>>>>>> not try:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community
> > >>>>>>> --action=reinstall qubes-template-debian-9
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> and I'm not that interested in going that route.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I've been using Qubes OS 3.2 for over a year now without this
> > >>>>>>> type of problem. Any more suggestions or fixes?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> John
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Have you tried the obvious, and created the missing directory?
> > >>>>>> Ownership should be root:qubes - compare to the other template
> > >>>>>> directories.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The only content is a symlink icon.png, pointing to
> > >>>>>> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/devices/appvm-black/png
> > >>>>>> You could create this yourself also.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Unman, thanks for replying. I didn't run that command (sudo
> > >>>>> qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community
> > >>>>> --action=reinstall qubes-template-debian-9), so I don't know if I
> > >>>>> would get the same error message, but I do have the directory
> > >>>>> /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/debian-9.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I've performed an automatic re-install of the debian-9 template
> > >>>>> twice and a manual re-install once. Still, no applications
> > >>>>> display under Applications tab. I can't even run a terminal via
> > >>>>> dom0 using: qvm-run debian-9 gnome-terminal
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I have to believe there is a simple command to make this debian-9
> > >>>>> template functional, but I don't know where to go from here.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> John
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sorry John, I misunderstood.
> > >>>> The message you quoted referred to a VM directory that did not
> > >>>> exist, and I assumed *that* was your problem.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It appears that your problem is that the template does not show any
> > >>>> applications. Have you tried running 'qvm-start debian-9' followed
> > >>>> by 'qvm-sync-appmenus debian-9' ? What is the result?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Incidentally, it would be helpful if you gave a little more
> > >>>> information about the errors you are encountering. When you try to
> > >>>> run gnome-terminal, what exactly happens? Do you see any error
> > >>>> messages? Does the template start?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Have you tried running other applications using qvm-run? xterm?
> > >>>> firefox?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> unman
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi unman,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for this. Sorry, I do need to provide more info.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I ran the following and got the following:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> [maher@dom0 ~]$ qvm-start debian-9
> > >>> [maher@dom0 ~]$ qvm-sync-appmenus debian-9
> > >>> Traceback (most recent call last):
> > >>> File "/usr/bin/qvm-sync-appmenus", line 9, in <module>
> > >>> load_entry_point('qubesdesktop==4.0.12', 'console_scripts',
> > >>> 'qvm-sync-appmenus')()
> > >>> File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesappmenus/receive.py", line
> > >>> 390, in main
> > >>> new_appmenus = retrieve_appmenus_templates(vm, use_stdin=use_stdin)
> > >>> File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesappmenus/receive.py",
> > >>> line 364, in retrieve_appmenus_templates new_appmenus =
> > >>> get_appmenus(vm if not use_stdin else None) File
> > >>> "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubesappmenus/receive.py", line
> > >>> 158, in get_appmenus
> > >>> "Error getting application list")
> > >>> qubesadmin.exc.QubesException: Error getting application list
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Regarding errors, I really haven't received any, and I've mostly
> > >>> worked in the GUI. For example, I opened Qubes Manager and ran Qube
> > >>> settings for the debian-9 template. Clicking the Applications tab
> > >>> displays no applications. Clicking the Refresh Application button
> > >>> results in no applications, regardless how long I wait.
> > >>>
> > >>> Running 'qvm-run debian-9 gnome-terminal' in dom0 displays:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Running 'gnome-terminal' in debian-9
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> It waits a short while and returns a dom0 prompt but no
> > >>> gnome-terminal window. The same thing happens when trying to run
> > >>> xterm or firefox.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for your attention to this.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> John
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Also, I mentioned it in an earlier post, but I re-installed the
> > >> template both automatically (twice) and manually (once).
> > >>
> > >> John
> > >>
> > >
> > > Still struggling with this. I don't understand how Fedora can work fine
> > > and the Debian-9 template is unusable. I'm open to suggestions.
> >
> > I don't get it either, especially with a fresh install. Did you test
> > before running any updates? If you enable debug mode, any hints in the
> > console or related VM log files?
>
> awokd, I did test before running updates. The template definitely starts out
> appearing (or having?) no applications.
>
> I don't know how to enable debug mode, and I don't see anything in the
> official documentation. I'm also not familiar with the console, unless you're
> referring to a dom0 terminal. Any guidance would be wonderful. Thanks.
>
> John
I decided to see if I could install the debian-8 template with different
results from the debian-9 template. Sure enough, by default terminal if
displayed as an available app under debian-8, and within debian-8 Qubes
Settings there are plenty of expected apps in the Applications tab. I'll now
try to upgrade debian-8 to debian-9 (using a different name) and see what I get.
awokd, I really appreciate you (and anyone else who has ideas on this) giving
this some attention. I really want to work with debian-9, and understand what
the hell is going on.
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