Tough questions and discussion but in the spirit of finding the "best" we can get laptop for Qubes 4.0 (Best being defined as: available to purchase, priced right, most open, most "reasonably" secure and...."reasonably simple" to maintain), for me I see the following as my best options, ranked:
Lenovo Carbon 5G X1 Available Good RAM Little pricey Easy install/maintain? Not sure if I can flash these BIOS... Lenova 400 series Available Affordable Limited RAM? Little boxy Easier to install/maintain Librem 'what ever" model Available NOT Affordable Limited RAM? Reasonably easy to install/maintain! G505 NOT as Available Affordable Limited RAM? Very boxy? Tough to install/maintain (Flash BIOS?? Out of my scope...) 200 series NOT as Available? Affordable Limited RAM? Very boxy? Tough to install/maintain! (Flash BIOS?? Out of my scope...) Dell/HP/Other? I don't know, but I suspect Qubes was developeded on Lenovo's yet select models work Desk Tops I need a laptop... Keep in mind I might weigh some of the "Easy to install/maintain" perspective more heavily but I see my best options as: 1)Carbon X1 being the ultimate winner (if I want to invest the $1k) 2)T400+ series for the budget concerned 3)Librem if you want to get the best you can with out the "fuss" and pay some $$ 4)G505/200 if you have the technical know-how/experience What I am struggling to weigh is the security/privacy/trust compromises and implications I have made/would make? I know G505/200 type products are most secure but how can I get one pre-installed and done (Easy) yet still balance trust, security, afford-ability, etc....I fear the open source BIOS are out of my technical scope to install and maintain. I find Librem intriguing with the easiest "most" open source option for the "reasonable" layman(person)...sure not Intel/AMD/government secure but at least non chip maker collusion secure? Lets assume Librem screwed up initially with their claims....are they clear now? Is their product a good option? Decisions, Decisions... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d53fd873-90fb-4426-b960-efd57aafbadd%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.