-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2/6/19 10:36 AM, unman wrote: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 10:15:54AM -0600, John Goold wrote: On > 2/6/19 1:12 AM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: >>>> kitchm via Forum: >>>> > ... >>>>> It is currently illegal by federal law to clear your >>>>> browser history. >>>> >>>> Cite? > > What one does with one's browser history, even assuming one's > browser has a browser history, is clearly not governed by law, > except perhaps in countries like China and Russion. > > Actually, it may be governed by law in the US, but not in Russia. > The FBI have interpreted Sarbanes-Oxley as creating a felony > offence where one deletes browser history where there was > reasonable expectation of investigation. It has been used against > Matanov, a friend of the Boston bombers, and David Kernell, who > hacked Sarah Palin's email. The EFF have highlighted this > interpretation of Sarbanes Oxley as egregious, but no doubt the > authorities deem it necessary. > > Note that it is NOT illegal in the US to clear your browser > history: but it may prove a felony offence to do so. In the two > cases cited there were reasonable grounds to suppose that a federal > investigation would take place. >
I think it should go without saying that anyone that violates a court order issued against them is committing an offense. Hmmm... So, in the U.S., if you are in a position that there was "a reasonable expectation of investigation", any attempt to maintain your privacy may be construed (at least by the FBI) to be a felony offence? Wow! Egregious seems to be an understatement. It seems a bit surreal. A person was not expecting to be the target of a government/justice system investigation, but someone or some group say the person should have expected to be investigated... I can see this happening in a non-democratic regime, but it seems unreal in a nation professing to be at the forefront of democracy. Anyway, I do not have to worry about this as I do not allow my browser to keep track of my browsing history (unless the browser is doing so surreptitiously). So I have no browser history to delete. However, I suppose if I became the subject of an investigation, any of my attempts (all mild) to maintain my privacy would be interpreted as nefarious. Anyway, as you implied, I was making assumptions based on my expectations of living in a democracy. It's an interesting discussion. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEe8Wcf7Po7bts2Rl4jWN9/rQYsRwFAlxbLJIACgkQjWN9/rQY sRxbAgf/bBRwIhE+EQ7FVHig6psIg+DDl15Jx8s/13mEjAvKlc45hgxjaShJAQvn n/nakGzdmzWwrgMAqeOzINGRMdfFaavVxck0+NL0hvVJJ/EONl8hYYloy5k+nUvA 1BoCgUk8LlLRNFSEvtltQod5GDkLAnaXPdxau4sY9u8YL60L3wnjJ8PPpa+lp8/G 0c8iwlwMSn8Yp4t8pJ7Rl7R7ikByY+v1BOt9R6x9zVmHi9SY00BjCKkLegJ5dhVE MGSA4BA43LsVvyNilQQ/AFMyUCVPo753rYvMjd0ED1hZJqpCJeXpjtBBS8Yg6enj FIY5+pkFU/X+p3wiSRdhMGnZKYh/Hw== =xIVp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1d2f305d-c7d4-d43a-33a6-d227515920ce%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
