Daniil Travnikov:
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 4:24:01 AM UTC+3, haaber wrote:
>> The "instructions" on the whonix webpage are more than confusing. There
>> are 3 alternative "ways" suggested. Which one is best /advised?
>>
>> I got the impression that a complete reinstall requires (a) a fedora
>> appvm (I have none), (b) does *not* work over TOR, since the AppVM's
>> based on whonix must be removed (or set to dummy  template) before
>> removing the whonix-14-templates. Then sys-whonix is gone, right?
>> That seems awkward asprocedure. Can someone explain, please? Why can't I
>> install whonix-gw-15 and whonix-ws-15 via dnf in dom0 and THEN remove
>> the *-14-* ones? Cheers, Bernhard

> Thank you for your post, I thought that I am alone, but I think the same.
> 
> I don't understand why in Qubes we can't install Whonix Templates of any 
> version from Dom0 like we usually do when we want to install Fedora,
> for example:
> 
> sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-XX
> 
I don't see why you couldn't, but you should possibly recreate
sys-whonix and anon-whonix. Not sure it's safe to re-use them. You
should try to use the Salt commands to do this, once you have the -15
templates installed and the -14 and sys/anon-whonix removed. Make sure
you're on mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machines v4.0.16 or higher. If you are
doing it manually, you should review everything the scripts do to make
sure you've run the appropriate qvm-features commands, etc. Not
following all the same steps as the Salt scripts could result in
unexpected traffic disclosures. Haven't upgraded these myself yet; I'll
let the early adopters work out the bugs first. ;)

See https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3765 and
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3447 for a longer
discussion of why the upgrade procedure is the way it is. If you can
write smarter Salt scripts, I suspect the Whonix team would be appreciative.

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