On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 7:59 PM <g80vmgm...@riseup.net> wrote: > panina: > > On 7/31/19 5:35 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > >> panina: > >>> Hello. > >>> > >>> > >>> I've been looking for how to fix some bad default settings in the whonix > >>> tor browser. Namely, they removed NoScript from the toolbar, so that the > >>> NoScript cannot be used as intended. > >>> > >>> Since it's not adviced (and not easily possible) to start the browser in > >>> the template, I have to do this manually each time I start a whonix dvm. > >>> Since this is cumbersome, I'm not using the NoScript plugin as intended. > >>> > >>> Does anyone know how to get this plugin into the toolbar for each dvm? I > >>> realize that this is a Whonix issue, but all of the affected users are > >>> on this list... > >> > >> You might be able to hack it like in 14- > >> https://forums.whonix.org/t/how-do-i-customise-tor-browser-in-a-whonix-templatebased-dvm-in-whonix-14/5580/27. > >> Note it may compromise anonymity by making your browser unique or at > >> least less generic. > >> > > > > Can't seem to get this working. I get confused by how the dvm's work, > > and am not succeeding in starting any applications in the dvm template. > > > > > > > > On 8/9/19 9:05 AM, Patrick Schleizer wrote: > >>> panina: > >>> Namely, they removed NoScript from the toolbar, so that the > >>> NoScript cannot be used as intended. > >> > >> > >> We did not. Decision by upstream, The Tor Project. > >> > >> > > https://forums.whonix.org/t/workstation-15-dropped-both-noscript-and-https/7733 > > > > Thanks, duly noted. Is there any chance to get them to add a setting for > > this? Or re-think their decision? > > > > <3 > > /panina > > > > > Thanks, duly noted. Is there any chance to get them to add a setting for > > this? Or re-think their decision? > > Please see: > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/30600 > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/30570 > > TL;DR The TBB developers pushed out some half-baked changes that > compromise UX, are hostile to the idea of reverting those changes, and, > three months later, apparently have zero interest in fully baking those > changes. > > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That's a little harsh, isn't it? Saying there is no interest is ignoring the fact that Tor Browser is maintained by a team of 10 people for four different operating systems. Tor Browser is useless (and actively harmful) if users are confused about which settings they should change (due to careful design choices) and which settings they shouldn't change. The Noscript and https-everywhere buttons on the toolbar allowed people to tweak the settings easily, and this was not something a normal user should do. If someone really needs to change these settings, then they can go through a more complicated procedure for accomplishing that. The team will finish implementing this, but (in particular) the highest priority task right now is migrating the Tor Browser patches and build system from Firefox 60esr to 68esr within the next few weeks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CAGF8hsss10Ugap-brrFWVjh0Gmvtv5%3D1%3Da1PWD%2BdagzBrOdwiQ%40mail.gmail.com.
