You mean I create a VM with Whonix OS installed (using virtualbox I'm 
guessing)?  I will have to research that, but yes I do need to use a VM, or 
multiple VM's.  I'd also like to find a way to use Firejail to sandbox 
whatever browser I'm using, if that's possible.

On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 6:03:55 PM UTC-4, Jackie wrote:
>
> O K: 
> > Thanks for all the help but I've been trying to figure out how to get 
> Qubes 
> > running for months and I've decided it's just a giant waste of my time 
> > because every time I get one bug fixed, two more show up to take it's 
> > place.  I think it's a brilliant idea but it needs a lot of work and 
> > streamlining before it's ready for public use.  It's a shame because my 
> > privacy and anonymity online are a matter of my personal safety and it 
> > would be nice to have a secure OS.  TAILS is not a fully usable system 
> > either.  I will have to install Ubuntu.  Good luck, everyone. 
>
> Hi, 
>
> Qubes definitely has a learning curve, but i think it's worth it (and 
> i'm definitely no linux expert). 
>
> But if you don't want to use qubes, one thing you can do for better 
> security and privacy is install debian/ubuntu and use non-qubes whonix 
> (you can use virtualbox, which is pretty easy to use). You can have 
> multiple whonix workstations, and you can create other VMs like debian 
> as well to compartmentalize your workflows. A solution like this is more 
> insecure than qubes, but definitely less insecure than just using bare 
> metal debian/ubuntu for everything. You still get the benefits of 
> virtualization and compartmentalization, but without the extra security 
> features of qubes (i'd recommend not using the host os for anything 
> directly, and doing everything in VMs). 
>

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