Instream... On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 11:39:06 -0700 (PDT) O K <oak2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>You mean I create a VM with Whonix OS installed (using virtualbox I'm >guessing)? I will have to research that, but yes I do need to use a VM, or >multiple VM's. I'd also like to find a way to use Firejail to sandbox >whatever browser I'm using, if that's possible. > What I used to do before I found Qubes was snapshot my running VM's...have one just for "sandbox" like work. Whenever I shut them down, I would just revert to the snapshot. This ensures that the programs were not modified...similar to a Qubes template. When a VM prompted for updates, I would revert to snapshot, do updates, take new snapshot. This way the chances of something sneaking in were minimized. Not perfect, but almost a model of qubes and templates. Multiple VM's for different tasks as well. When I discovered Qubes it was very familiar already. Whonix comes in the gateway and browser VM's for VirtualBox too, and I even had that running on my home server before I went Qubes. If you play the same snapshot/update game with them you can maintain a reasonable level of security. For persistent data, use an attached HD image which is NOT part of the snapshot, or some NAS serving VM which does nothing else. Not perfect, but reasonable. >On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 6:03:55 PM UTC-4, Jackie wrote: >> >> O K: >> > Thanks for all the help but I've been trying to figure out how to get >> Qubes >> > running for months and I've decided it's just a giant waste of my time >> > because every time I get one bug fixed, two more show up to take it's >> > place. I think it's a brilliant idea but it needs a lot of work and >> > streamlining before it's ready for public use. It's a shame because my >> > privacy and anonymity online are a matter of my personal safety and it >> > would be nice to have a secure OS. TAILS is not a fully usable system >> > either. I will have to install Ubuntu. Good luck, everyone. >> >> Hi, >> >> Qubes definitely has a learning curve, but i think it's worth it (and >> i'm definitely no linux expert). >> >> But if you don't want to use qubes, one thing you can do for better >> security and privacy is install debian/ubuntu and use non-qubes whonix >> (you can use virtualbox, which is pretty easy to use). You can have >> multiple whonix workstations, and you can create other VMs like debian >> as well to compartmentalize your workflows. A solution like this is more >> insecure than qubes, but definitely less insecure than just using bare >> metal debian/ubuntu for everything. You still get the benefits of >> virtualization and compartmentalization, but without the extra security >> features of qubes (i'd recommend not using the host os for anything >> directly, and doing everything in VMs). >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190827215757.7117bb92%40gmail.com.
