Quoting myself: After some deep research I discovered that the WWAN slot indeed takes a* > SATA M.2 *SSD. (source > <http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/new-latitude-5470.785426/page-9#post-10227440> > ). > You'd better go for the shorter ones, otherwise they'll collide with the > inner plastic frame and won't fit. I believe you can fit 32 and 40mm length > drives without any trouble.
So a SATA M.2 2242 or 2230 should fit. Examples <https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=sata+m.2+2242&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=sata+m.2+2230> I couldn't find those sizes here in my country. So as I explained on the same post, I disassembled and broke away pieces of the inner frame to fit a 2280 size drive. On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 2:50 PM Andrew Sullivan <andrew.t.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thursday, 14 May 2020 13:52:59 UTC+1, Rafael Reis wrote: >> >> Hey Andrew, >> >> Glad I could help. >> >> Yes you can manually enable and disable drives on BIOS, although it is a >> somewhat cumbersome workflow if you dual boot a lot. Especially if you have >> BIOS password enabled as well. >> >> Windows sees the Qubes drive enabled, initialized but not formatted. It >> does not touch the drive and does not prompt to format it or anything. Yes, >> it is there, exposed but again, depending on your threat model this isn’t >> that big of a deal. I have custom software highest encryption bitlocker >> enabled on the windows drive as well. >> >> You may always encrypt qubes boot partition as well. It’s one more >> password. There’s docs for that. >> >> As far as laptop size goes that’s entirely personal. I’m 95% of the time >> docked, with a full desktop setup around me, so I favor the portability >> when on the go. You may consider the dock station + monitors + keyboard >> mouse combo. You also get a ton of additional I/O, charging, and many perks >> with this configuration. It’s awesome, and a Single eject away of being >> untethered. >> >> I’ve worked with the precisions before, and to me they are absolute >> mammoths. But I’d probably go for a bigger laptop if I didn’t have the >> docking setup. >> >> Good luck on your Qubes adventure. >> >> Rafael >> >> Em qui, 14 de mai de 2020 às 09:13, Andrew Sullivan <andrew....@gmail.com> >> escreveu: >> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, 11 May 2020 23:13:21 UTC+1, Rafael Reis wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey Andrew! >>>> >>>> Sorry for the late reply, haven't checked the mailing list in a while. >>>> >>>> I have a 5470 service tag # 5V2GBG2 >>>> You may see the full original config here >>>> <https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/product-support/servicetag/0-dHBZdFAzUVN4THRPN0NkTzFYWlNWdz090/overview> >>>> . >>>> >>>> Basically it came stock with a quad core i7-6820HQ. Sata drive with the >>>> tiny sata cable. No m.2 bracket or SSD installed to the NVME ngff slot. >>>> Nothing installed on the wwan ngff slot, and intel's wifi card installed to >>>> the ngff wireless slot. >>>> >>>> It has 3 ngff slots (M.2 NVME, WIFI, WWAN) keyed differently (Key A, B >>>> etc) and the sata data+power cable for 1 sata drive. >>>> >>>> I've upgraded ram to 2x8GB DDR4, removed the stock sata hdd and >>>> replaced it with a sata ssd. Since I needed more capacity than performance, >>>> I got a 512GB Crucial BX500. It was way more affordable than an nvme drive >>>> atm, and I didn't have the m.2 bracket either, which would mean I would >>>> only be able to secure the nvme ssd with double sided tape or other >>>> improvised solution. The BX500 is known to have an exploitable hardware >>>> encryption, so be advised to use only software encryption on that drive. >>>> >>>> That drive became my Windows 10 drive, GPT / UEFI enabled. >>>> Started using Qubes on a USB 3.0 64GB flash drive, it worked pretty >>>> well considering the constraints, but decided I needed a drive for Qubes >>>> itself. >>>> >>>> After some deep research I discovered that the WWAN slot indeed takes a >>>> SATA M.2 SSD. (source >>>> <http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/new-latitude-5470.785426/page-9#post-10227440> >>>> ). >>>> You'd better go for the shorter ones, otherwise they'll collide with >>>> the inner plastic frame and won't fit. I believe you can fit 32 and 40mm >>>> length drives without any trouble. I couldn't find an affordable SATA M.2 >>>> with at least 256GB for Qubes (that was my personal need), so I ended up >>>> getting a regular 80mm lenght one. To make it fit, I had to "mod" the inner >>>> plastic frame, and disassemble 50% of the laptop. I opted simply to break >>>> pieces of the plastic frame in order to free space for the lengthier drive. >>>> Then, I isolated the surroundings with tape and secured the ssd (don't >>>> remember how, if I was able to bolt it in, tape it, or pressure). The SSD I >>>> used in the WWAN port is >>>> https://www.lexar.com/portfolio_page/ssd-nm100/ 256GB version >>>> >>>> You have to change BIOS settings under drive configuration to enable >>>> the required sata ports. >>>> >>>> Initialized that drive as GPT, and installed Qubes to it. >>>> >>>> You are right regarding the "dual boot". I don't have Grub. I use the >>>> "BIOS" UEFI bootmanager to choose which OS I'd like to boot. All I have to >>>> do is press F12 after powering up. I've renamed Qubes to Recovery, so it is >>>> inconspicuous. Default boot drive is the BX500 with windows. >>>> >>>> The level of compatibility of the E5470 with Qubes is outstanding. The >>>> performance is incredible. >>>> The only thing that didn't work OOB was the SD card reader, which was >>>> easily fixed by opting to kernel-latest . Docking station works 100%, with >>>> multiple monitors. Even 2 monitors + laptop monitor works perfectly. I wish >>>> it was possible to nuke Intel ME on 6th gen laptops and have it fully >>>> Opensource. It would make a great candidate for certification. >>>> >>>> My only concern right now is the decisions for the GUI of Qubes 4.1. I >>>> wonder if the separation of the GUI and dom0 would result in >>>> incompatibility with E5470 or even a big decrease in performance. This >>>> thing is perfect for Qubes if your threat model isn't government agencies >>>> high. >>>> >>>> Hope I could help, and let me know if you have further questions. >>>> Em quarta-feira, 6 de maio de 2020 20:51:29 UTC-3, andrew....@gmail.com >>>> escreveu: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Rafael >>>>> >>>>> Interested to see you got an SSD drive to work in the WWAN slot in >>>>> your E5470. Could you tell me what drive you used, and the spec for your >>>>> laptop. Am I right in thinking that you have Windows installed on one >>>>> drive >>>>> and Qubes on the other, and that you actually choose which drive to boot >>>>> from at power up? So it's not "dual-boot" in the usual sense (ie multiple >>>>> OSs on the same drive)? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>> >>> Hi Rafael >>> >>> Very many thanks for your comprehensive reply, lots of good information >>> there. What I hope to end up with is pretty similar to what you have - a >>> large(ish) drive with Windws and Linux Mint in a conventional dual boot >>> setup, and a drive in the WWAN slot to run Qubes. I think it is possible >>> to inactivate drives individually on Dell laptops so if I feel it necessary >>> I could switch off the W/LM drive when using Qubes and vice versa. I think >>> this would largely get around the potential risk of the Qubes /boot >>> partition getting compromised when using one of the other OSs? Depends how >>> paranoid I feel! >>> >>> Regarding choice of laptop, I am torn between the E5470 and the M4800. >>> I now know that the E5470 will work, but I do like the bigger screen (would >>> FHD, not QHD) and the separate number pad on the M4800; I also like the >>> number of storage drives it can accomodate. It's a bit of a big old thing, >>> but portabity isn't really an issue for me. Pricewise there's not much in >>> it on the Dell Outlet site (UK). >>> >>> I agree it would be good if the ME could be dealt with on the newer >>> machines - maybe someone will find a way... I'm not up to speed on the >>> GUI/dom(0) issue; hopefully Brendan is right that it will be an option, so >>> it won't matter. >>> >>> Thanks again >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> -- >>> >> Hi Rafael > > Quick update - I now have a refurbished E5470 (Core i5, 256GB SSD, 8gb > RAM, FHDscreen). Works fine with W10 and Linux Mint, so I'll be getting a > SSD for the WWAN slot (and maybe another 8GB SODIMM) and starting with > Qubes! Do you happen to remember what sort of SSD you put in that slot (I > know it should be 2242 form, but mSATA, PCIe, something else???). > > Many thanks > > Andrew > > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "qubes-users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/qubes-users/6nmAX9cfgGQ/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> qubes...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/56f2f158-844b-457f-86f7-3d354023e1bc%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/56f2f158-844b-457f-86f7-3d354023e1bc%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "qubes-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/qubes-users/6nmAX9cfgGQ/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d3ef58ba-3316-453d-b569-eca182303728%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d3ef58ba-3316-453d-b569-eca182303728%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. 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