On 2010-03-19, Joe Wulf <joe_w...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Group, > > With due humbleness and respect to both 'cnoyes2' (the original author) and > Steve Kosteke---I would think he (cnoyes2) isn't concerned with whether the > clocks are monotonic (whatever that is). > > I understand and fully agree that unmanaged clocks, which are not > sync'd to an authoritative time-source will drift, and it can get > horrible and other bad things can happen. Got that. > > What seems to get lost, and admittedly not explained very well---hence > my attempt here.... is that there are many situations these days where > folks are developing, working, troubleshooting real-world problems in > environments big and small that are deliberately isolated (and rightfully > so)---and > just don't have the luxury of an authoritative time-source -- but just want > time to 'work' and be sync'd. They are not going to get an authoritative > time-source. They are not knowledgeable/experienced
I am sorry, but getting an authoritative time source is trivial. A GPS18x is cheap ( a lot less than you have spent on your salary in these postings) reliable and easy. If they do not need the microsecond precision of PPS, they can get a serial or usb version and get millisecond precision, which is probably all they need. > with ntp (raises my own hand high here). They need meaningful technical > advice (ideally from this community), broken down into layman's > terms, on how to establish 'the best that can be possible' in a private > environment knowing it will never get to have an authoritative > time-source. Why not? > > In other words---how can we broaden folks knowledge of ntp, in enjoyable > ways, tell them first what they CAN do and solve their ntp problems along the > way? > They are being told what they can do. > R, > -Joe Wulf > Senior IA Engineer/ISSE > ProSync Technology Group, LLC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Steve Kostecke <koste...@ntp.org> >> To: questions@lists.ntp.org >> Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 2:56:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Quick sync between two computers not connected >> to the internet >> >> > On 2010-03-19, cnoyes2 < >> > href="mailto:cnoy...@gmail.com">cnoy...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > I'm trying to sync the time on 2 Windows XP computers that are not on >> > the internet and never will be. For testing purposes, they need to >> > have the same time. The time does not need to be accurate. >> >> You're not concerned about whether or not the clocks are stable or monotonic? >> >> Steve Kostecke _______________________________________________ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions