I suggest that you tackle this on the basis of the health benefits of meat of all kinds. the thing about being and becoming a vegetarian, is that this must be tackled from a knowledge of the health benfits to you standpoint.
 
Once you discover the overall benefits of a vegetarian diet and the numerous ways that you can get protein aside from dairy and meat ( none of which you will find in standard industry material for obvious reasons), you'll be on a knowledge track from which nobody can derail you.
 
I also suggest that you read materials on the myriad of ways that you can become a vegetarian ( there are levels for sure). You'll find a lot of this stuff in health food stores. If you study very closely the emerging FOOD TRIANGLE, you'll find more and moer that meat is being relagated to fewer and fewer servings. The science of it ( hwen pure scientist become involved ) is very difficult to refute.
 
You'll then be prepared to shop differently, as well as treat your freinds how to treat you. Just as they respect non-alcohol drinkers and non-smokers on the point of principle, they come to respect your new and permanent choices as well. When you are informed , there is no need to explain. Most folks already know that meat and dairy are high cholesterol content foods, but it is often difficult to reconcile this with the strong draw and attachment to culture and tradition.
 
Your grandmother and mother will almost disown you if you waver in any way. Consistency is the watch word as in all things. People respect consistency over the long haul, and that is the most difficult for most newbie vegetarians who are trying to become principled in their approach.
 
You must ween yourself slowly from meats starting first with the worst, beef, then pork, then on down the line over a period of years. If you are like me , you'll do it overnight once you get sufficint knowledge form your own research and readings. Colds, flus, sinus conditions, and other forms of mucus generations will be the first to leave you.
 
The new discipline will help you in all other areas of your life, once you internalize the principle of discipline, then apply it to other areas of your life that need changing.
 
Off my soap box now.
Good Luck!
Out,
P B Hall

visual_infinityuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dear Group,

I understand this is a group for recipe exchange but I would like to
find some help on my queries below and have been unsuccesful in
finding a decent forum to discuss them in so I was hoping some of you
could contribute towards them since they affect most vegetarians in
some way.

I have recently given considerable thought to becoming a vegetarian,
I have pondered over being one since I was about 13, but I am 22 now
and have rcently considered this issue in light of some disturbing
images I saw on TV over animal testing (a monkey with some of its
brain exposed!!!) and on battery chickens and now feel I can
successfully plan my own diet. The reason for wanting to be a
vegetarian is partly logic, it is not logical to destroy one life to
support another imo, also of compassion over the disgusting living
conditions battery farm chickens have to be put through amongst other
animals.

I dont think I will have a problem switching to being a vegetarian
(as some people I know are suggesting it will be a big lifestyle
change lmao) because I am not the type to look at a BBQ and
think "oh, I'd love to bite into one of those juicy burgers" lol. 
However, I have in thinking about this issue over the last two days
had some curious thoughts over what I may or may not eat on my
grounds for not eating meat and whether or not for example I may wear
leather shoes (I dont recall seeing any decent shoes for example of
any other material... btw - this reminds me someone recently
suggested I am over analytical which I think is quite true ;o)

If I am going to be against killing and eating cows for example over
the logic as suggested, then killing a cow for its leather is even
less justified. Also, is it ok to say I dont eat cow on the basis it
is not a prefered flavour since I am not aware of whether or not cows
are treated poorly??

Have any of you advice on where I may read about what people in the
vegetarian world are saying about these issues? Or places where I may
discuss this logically?

Jonathan



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