Hi Gary,

An idea to consider: Why not have a download option that defaults to
retrieve purged symbols version of the database.  And thus those users
that do prefer to keep older symbols around can change this option to
retrieve the database that keeps dead symbols.  That way you make both
types of users happy.

Regards,

JD

--- In [email protected], "gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Ed
> 
> What Lionell pointed out was the translate table used to translate
our symbols into different symbools for Metastock users. It doesn't
have anything to do with keeping dead symbols in the database.
> 
> We don't keep dead symbols, they will be purged more frequently that
in the past, as the dead symbols cause problems for others.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Gary Lyben
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Edward Pottasch 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 3:33 AM
>   Subject: Re: [quotes-plus] changes in the database
> 
> 
> 
>   ok thanks,
> 
>   on first glance it seems a bit hard to use this in the practice
since how do you know which symbols will be removed next. There must
be some automated way ...
> 
>   rgds, Ed
> 
> 
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: Lionel Issen 
>     To: [email protected] 
>     Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:20 AM
>     Subject: RE: [quotes-plus] changes in the database
> 
> 
> 
>     Open qp_meta.exe.  The last button is "edit translate table".
> 
> 
>     Hope this helps.
> 
> 
>     Lionel
> 
> 
>     From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Pottasch
>     Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:57 AM
>     To: [email protected]
>     Subject: Re: [quotes-plus] changes in the database
> 
> 
>     ok thanks I couldn't find it but I will check with Amibroker
since I use QP data only through Amibroker. There is a database
setting in Amibroker that will not retrieve symbols without data but
even before this function was added I believe symbols just lost all
historical data once they were delisted from their exchange,
> 
> 
>     rgds, Ed
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>       From: Lionel Issen 
> 
>       To: [email protected] 
> 
>       Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 4:14 AM
> 
>       Subject: RE: [quotes-plus] changes in the database
> 
> 
>       QP has a feature, I think its called a dictionary, that
enables your to continue using your old symbols which QP recognizes as
equivalent to the new signals.
> 
>       Lionel
> 
>       From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Pottasch
>       Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 4:42 PM
>       To: [email protected]
>       Subject: Re: [quotes-plus] changes in the database
> 
>       hi,
> 
>       splits are one reason why my backtest looks a little different
from one day to the other simply because a signal is not generated
after a split or the other way around. Another more important reason
for backtests to suddenly change is the fact that symbols are removed
from 1 day to the other. Friday's backtest still used HCA en CMVT
while the backtest for monday will not use them since the symbols are
no longer there ...
> 
>       I understand that symbols that are no longer valid are removed
but for backtesting it is horrible ... for proper portfolio
backtesting one would need symbols to remain in the database for some
period of time in my opinion.
> 
>       regards, Ed
> 
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>         From: gary 
> 
>         To: [email protected] 
> 
>         Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:55 PM
> 
>         Subject: Re: [quotes-plus] changes in the database
> 
>         There is no list you can look at.
> 
>         There can be a lot of changes on any day, yesterday, a lot
of dead symbols were deleted.
> 
>         Here are the recent splits:
> 
>         SYMBOL,DATE,NEWQUAN,OLDQUAN
>         VIVO  ,5/14/2007,3,2
>         GENRD ,5/15/2007,1,6
>         AOGS  ,5/15/2007,1,20
>         AAA   ,5/15/2007,69.75,25.12999916
>         INSP  ,5/16/2007,24.59000015,18.29000092
>         MZ    ,5/16/2007,1,10
>         NXY   ,5/16/2007,2,1
>         FCEN  ,5/16/2007,1.5,1
>         EWNR  ,5/16/2007,10,1
>         TPC   ,5/16/2007,1,10
>         CECB  ,5/17/2007,2,1
>         RDDI  ,5/17/2007,2,1
>         IBOC  ,5/17/2007,1.100000024,1
>         CZNB  ,5/18/2007,1.049999952,1
>         IBOC  ,5/19/2007,1.100000024,1
>         AMLS  ,5/21/2007,1,20
>         IEX   ,5/22/2007,3,2
>         KSW   ,5/22/2007,1.049999952,1
>         SAMBD ,5/23/2007,1,2.5
>         WAIN  ,5/23/2007,1.049999952,1
>         VCBC  ,5/24/2007,1.049999952,1
>         IDUL E,5/24/2007,1,1000
>         APPA  ,5/25/2007,1,4
>         PCBK  ,5/29/2007,1.100000024,1
>         FPBI  ,5/29/2007,1.049999952,1
>         ATLS  ,5/29/2007,1.5,1
>         GIL   ,5/29/2007,2,1
>         FLPB  ,5/30/2007,1.049999952,1
>         PPFS  ,5/30/2007,1.039999962,1
>         POT   ,5/30/2007,3,1
>         SOCB  ,5/30/2007,1.100000024,1
>         PRWT  ,5/30/2007,1.049999952,1
>         FMX   ,5/31/2007,3,1
>         VSEA  ,5/31/2007,3,2
> 
>         Gary
> 
>           ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>           From: Edward Pottasch 
> 
>           To: [email protected] 
> 
>           Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 4:33 AM
> 
>           Subject: [quotes-plus] changes in the database
> 
>           hi,
> 
>           is there a list where QP3 shows what changes are made to
the database? For instance splits?  Sometimes I get a difference in
the return of a backtest which I can't explain. Today I downloaded the
data on both computers so I can not locate where the difference
occurs. Usually this is caused due to a split.
> 
>           Which changes were made yesterday? And where can I find a
list of changes for future reference?
> 
>           thanks, Ed
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