Expression was something Roland added to the controller list, from what I remember, so they could MIDI their piano and organ type keyboards. Expression on a pipe organ not only raises the volume some but raises certain pipe ranks more than others. So it'd not only change the sound of the instrument but also the timbre. I've never run into a synth with hard wired volume and expression both.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Raymond Grote Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 4:07 PM To: QWS list Subject: Re: QWS List controllers, (was adding sustain) Yep, I agree with that. Except some of those technical specs are very complicated... And, another thing with volume and expression. I believe originally, as you said, volume is for setting the main mix of a track. but, expression was probably supposed to be more similar to a velocity controler. So, if you have a brass section, as you played at lower and higher velocities the sound might get darker or brighter. But the same was probably meant to happen with expression too. I only know of one synth that actually did this, and I haven't thoroughly tested it to see if it works. It is an FM synth that allows you to make your own GM set. I was messing around with it, and although my programming experience is below zero, I still got it to do some things like what I described. And let's not even get into aftertouch... ----- Original Message ----- From: "JAMES BOWDEN" <[email protected]> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: QWS List adding sustain > Hi, > > Just to add to this conversation: the Google list of controllers is > good as reference, but the best way to find out what your keyboard > supports is to read the MIDI Implemnetation section of the manual for > your keyboard. It's generally right at the back. > > There's also a general list at the back of the QS manual of some > common controllers. > > Two good reasons to check the MIDI Implementation Chart: first it will > list which controllers are actually supported and second it will note > any special cases, e.g. specific situations where the controllers > don't work because of a setting for example. > > Looking at controllers, you may also find that certain pairs of > controllers might appear to do the same thing: in particular: 7 volume > and 11 expression. I believe the idea is that 7 should be used to set > the main mix levels andyou can then use 11 within the track to cause > volume adjustments. > > Hope this helps. > > James. > > On 06/11/2011, Brian Williams <[email protected]> wrote: >> hi nicole >> many thanks, thats a good start. it would be useful to find a complete >> set >> of numbers. I omitted to state i am using a roland exr5 keyboard. >> Brian >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Nicole Massey" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 5:05 PM >> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: QWS List adding sustain >> >>> Both are correct -- there are standard numbers for certain things that >>> are >>> in common use. Sustain pedal is designated as number 64, for example. >>> That >>> said, any manufacturer is not required to use these numbers in their >>> products if they don't want to. >>> >>> Here are the ones I know off the top of my head. Note that 0-63 are >>> usually >>> for continuous controllers while 64-127 are switches. Also, some of the >>> last >>> few numbers have other uses for things like changing the MIDI response >>> mode, >>> sending a tune request, and turning Local off. >>> >>> 0. Bank Select >>> 1. Modulation Wheel >>> 2. Breath Controller >>> 5. Portamento value >>> 7. Volume >>> 10. Pan >>> 64. Sustain pedal >>> 65. Sostenuto pedal >>> >>> I'd welcome any other ones anyone can remember, as I'd like to compile a >>> list of the common ones. I know I'm missing things like Expression >>> pedal, >>> Reverb switch, Portamento switch, and the registered parameter controls. >>> I've also forgotten the controller used by Ensoniq to switch to >>> different >>> sub-patches using their two buttons. >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Brian Williams >>> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 11:49 AM >>> To: QWS list >>> Subject: QWS List adding sustain >>> >>> Hi all >>> still getting to grips with QWS. amazed. can someone explain how i can >>> add >>> sustain to a bar i have already recorded. I assume it's something to do >>> with >>> >>> controllers. Is there a list of what controllers do what or does it >>> depend >>> on the instrument? would be grateful for any advice. many thanks in >>> hope, >>> brian >>> >>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >>> >>> for archived list posts, see >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>> >>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >>> >>> for archived list posts, see >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >> >> for archived list posts, see >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com > > for archived list posts, see > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
