André Baldo wrote:
Sorry if I was not clear when I said about putting in numbers like
174, that number was entered in the keyboard, not into the properties
dialog. Out of QWS, I dial it and the keyboard's sound comes as music
box, through the keyboard. With QWS open, however, if I choose this
same number on the keyboard, the sound played via the computer is
string ensemble and, of course, when I check the properties, the
number sent was 48, and not 10 as I would expect and the bank was 112.
I thought that, if I put the correct instrument number in my
keyboard's dial, it would send the correct midi message even though
the midi standards went only up to 127... Of course if I were to
choose the same instrument on the computer, I would put in 10 for
music box and 73 for flute if I remember James' tutorial correctly,
but still by what I remember from reading my keyboard's manual these
numbers, in it, are 174 and, well I said it wrong the first time, 092
respectively...
I think I made myself a bit clear now...
André.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole Massey" <[email protected]>
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 5:47 PM
Subject: RE: QWS List determining patch and program number
Also note that some instruments and devices only go from 0 to 127 for
banks,
as they only use controller 0, the MSB amount, to change banks. The free
software synthesizer Proteus VX is one of these.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
James Bowden
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 3:45 PM
To: QWS list
Subject: Re: QWS List determining patch and program number
Hi folks,
A couple of things here:
First, some instruments will transmit the program/bank numbers when you
select sounds on the keyboard. If you have the Track Properties dialog
open, QWS can recognise this info and will automatically fill in the
values
in the Program and Bank.
Note however that not all keyboards will send this information. Consult
your keyboard's manual.
Second: a reminder that in MIDI, many values go from 0-127. So, if you
enter a value such as 174 or 192 into the Program box, this is invalid
data.
Program goes from 0-127, bank goes from 0-16383.
Also, have a look in the List Archive, I think Nicole made some
interesting
remarks about how you can build instrument lists. Information about the
list is at the bottom of every list email.
I hope this helps.
With best regards,
James.
----- Original Message -----
From: "André Baldo" <[email protected]>
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: QWS List determining patch and program number
I was testing with a Yamaha PSR-e413 keyboard and at the same time,
leaving
the properties dialogue open and, if I select instruments on the
keyboard,
the numbers (and sounds) change... The problem is, for example, that I
put
in 174 which, if I remember correctly, should come out as music box...
And
it played strings. 192 should have been the flute, but the wrong sound
came
out too. So I am not sure about how the data is being sent/received
between
the keyboard and QWS, but at least the instruments (and banks) change...
André
----- Original Message ----- From: David (Mr Music)
To: QWS list
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:45 PM
Subject: QWS List determining patch and program number
Hi friends
Is there a way how you can select a specific sound on your keyboard,
and then let qws pick up the patch and program number automatically -
sort
of
the reverse of going down the instrument list in the track properties
dialogue?
I have many sounds on my keyboard which are not represented on the
instrument list,
but I don't know their bank/program numbers!
Thanks again
David
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Hi,
The number that you press on your keyboard is not the number that QWS
will see. When you dial in a certain number on the keyboard, it's
actually sending bank and program messages that correspond to the
instrument with that number. For example, pressing 150 might get you the
instrument on bank 2, program 17, for example. I have no clue, just
making an example. The keyboard might just put it as patch 150 in its
system.
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