Also, if you know the bank-select numbers for the sound you are trying to find, 
that should help. Try setting the program to 0, then go to bank and try 
arrowing up through the list while playing your keyboard.  If the sound 
changes, then go back to program and arrow through that list to see what new 
sounds you have discovered.  

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicole 
Massey
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:56 PM
To: QWS list <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: QWS List Using qws with a Yamaha dgx-660.

Instrument definitions are *simple* if you use the method I posted here a while 
ago for doing them in Excel and Notepad. But yeah, compare them to the sound 
list first, because GM/GM2/GS/XG might be far easier.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of paul 
nimmo
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 11:35 AM
To: QWS list <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: QWS List Using qws with a Yamaha dgx-660.

Hi, thank you very, very much. Yes I have the manual and it does have a patch 
chart and it's quite accessible so I will try all the below.

I had a suspicion that 0 was omni but thanks so much for that. I put the piano 
on channel 1 but will definitely try the gm set before I dive into something as 
seemingly complex as creating my own instrument definition but if I do I'll 
submit it of course so others don't need to do so.

Thanks so much for this.

Cheers!


On 2017-05-19 12:33 AM, Nicole Massey wrote:
> Okay, since it's a Yamaha product you can find the manual online, because 
> almost everything they make has online PDF files of the manuals. You may need 
> a converter, like PDF to TXT, to convert it to something OCR'd. But if you 
> can find a patch list you can make your own INST file for it without much 
> problem.
> That said, if it's GM compatible then you can know a nice set of things. For 
> one thing you're going to be able to use the GM sound set, which is a 
> standard definition file for QWS. Second, chances are good it responds to all 
> 16 MIDI channels, with the drums on channel 10. So try things out by pressing 
> ALT+Enter and changing the MIDI channel to 1. Then set your instrument 
> definition in QWS to GM for the port in question and press V until you get 
> violin, then arrow down to strings or Massed strings, depending on what the 
> particular file says. Press enter. Now press shift+Home and press the space 
> bar. You should hear string sounds instead of grand piano sounds. If you 
> don't then play with the program numbers  and find out what you hear. This 
> will also prove that you don't have a GM compatible instrument. Also, if you 
> hear nothing then there's a MIDI channel issue, and you'll want to use the 
> MIDI channel entry in the track properties to find out what plays. Note that 
> many tracks will sound like a piano -- that's because that channel hasn't 
> gotten a program change yet, but you want to find out what channels are live.
> Why does it always work with channel 0? Because QWS uses channel 0 for Omni 
> mode, so it'll send on all 16 channels when the channel is set to 0. Change 
> it off this to do any real troubleshooting.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> Of paul nimmo
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:03 PM
> To: QWS list <[email protected]>
> Subject: QWS List Using qws with a yamahah dgx-660.
>
> Hi all, ok, have been using qws for quite a while but really only using it 
> mostly with softwaare synths etc and hadn't used it for a few versions.
>
> Have a new yamaha dgx660 which I love so decided to give it a try with qws.
>
> It has usb midi and qws can see it as portable grand so I set it up for both 
> input and output.
>
> What I'm wanting to do is this.
>
> I laid down a piano track which went very well, no problem.
>
> What I'd like to do now is overlay some strings. Is there an easy way to do 
> this?
>
> I'm quite comfortable with reading manuals but don't see any documentation on 
> how this can be done, i.e. when you set up a new track everything is 
> basically set to 0 in properties.
>
> So I guess:
>
> 1. does anyone have an instrument file for the dgx660 or any of the dgx 
> series, I'm assuming they are similar?
>
> 2. Has anyone had any experience with these or similar instruments, for 
> example, will assigning theh instrument s a general midi instrument work, 
> docs for the 660 say it supports gm/gs and a subset of xg.
>
> 3. if not to any of the above, how do I tell qws what patch number I'm using 
> for my strings on the keyboard.
>
> 4. Last but not least, am I missing something in not being able to find any 
> documentation on this because I'm quite happy to go document diving in fact 
> it's a good wind down before bed etc.
>
> Thanks in advance to anyone able/willing to take the time to help here, I'm 
> trying to create something from the ground up for someone very dear to me and 
> I'd like this to sound good and go well, <smile>.
>
> Qws looks like the right tool for this job if I can only learn how to make it 
> fit, <smile>.
>
> Cheers!
>
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