On 31/01/2018 8:59 AM, Mark van der Loo wrote:
I fully agree with Joris and Hadley on roxygen2.


Additionally:

I wrote and published my first package before roxygen (or roxygen2) was available. I found editing .Rd extremely terse (especially when code is updated). For example, the fact that there are no spaces allowed between } and { in \param{}{} has hurt my brain quite a few times, especially

There's no \param macro in Rd. You're probably thinking of \item{}{} or \section{}{}, or some other two-arg macro. There aren't very many of them, but there are a few.

If it really is \item, then the error message you get would look something like this:

Warning: bad markup (extra space?) at foo.Rd:15:16

That's column 16 of line 15. I'm not sure this guess is right, because that message does seem pretty informative.

There are also a couple of 1 or 2 argument macros (\eqn and \deqn), where the space would make the parser think you were using the 1 argument version. I think that's the same behaviour as LaTeX, which the Rd format is loosely based on.


since R CMD check did not give any useful error messages about it. For me it is a signal that the Rd parser is rather primitive.

Originally the format was defined in a really ad hoc way: help pages were formed not by parsing the Rd file, but by applying a sequence of substitutions to it. I wrote a parser following the usual R policy of trying not to break too much existing code. This wasn't easy because the format had grown into something fairly awful, but I wouldn't call it primitive. At the time I was really hoping someone else would propose something better, but I don't think that ever happened.

Duncan Murdoch


 On the other
hand Roxygen2 now usually gives pretty good error messages when I syntax error something.

Also, the 'parent' of roxygen is Doxygen, which was already widely used (also by me) in the C/C++ community before roxygen was published. I cannot remember anyone ever complaining about C/C++ documentation deteriorating because of Doxygen.


-Mark


Op wo 31 jan. 2018 om 14:02 schreef Joris Meys <jorism...@gmail.com <mailto:jorism...@gmail.com>>:

    On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 1:41 PM, Duncan Murdoch
    <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com <mailto:murdoch.dun...@gmail.com>>
    wrote:

     > On 31/01/2018 6:33 AM, Joris Meys wrote:
     >
     > 3. given your criticism, I'd like your opinion on where I can
    improve the
     >> documentation of
    https://github.com/CenterForStatistics-UGent/pim. I'm
     >> currently busy updating the help files for a next release on
    CRAN, so your
     >> input is more than welcome.
     >>
     >
     > After this invitation I sent some private comments to Joris.  I
    would say
     > his package does a pretty good job of documentation; it isn't the
    kind of
     > Roxygen-using package that I was complaining about.  So I will
    say I have
     > received an example of a Roxygen-using package that
     > has good help pages.
     >

    Thank you for the nice compliment and the valuable tips.

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