Bill, very interesting comment. However, do you believe that by posting these tutorials on a wiki they could, even if initially faulty, be improved by the community over time?
Ricardo On 10/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think you need to see how things work before making any decision on > this. While the principle seems OK, in a optimistic sort of way, you > may be a little disappointed by the outcome. Some will likely be > superb, useful, well written and accessible. Others, I suspect, will > fall short of this ideal, with some falling a fair way short. That's > the way students learn, after all. They should use these exercises to > straighten things out in their own minds, and some of them seem to have > rather twisted ideas, at least initially, even at "graduate-level". > > Some people argue it's useful to see the learning process in action, and > some books I could mention seem to be written this way - but they don't > get very good reviews. I just think there is a real danger here of > giving misleading and inefficient teaching materials a spurious cloak of > legitimacy, even if there are disclaimers all over it. I see a need to > be very cautious about this, in other words. > > > Bill Venables > CSIRO Laboratories > PO Box 120, Cleveland, 4163 > AUSTRALIA > Office Phone (email preferred): +61 7 3826 7251 > Fax (if absolutely necessary): +61 7 3826 7304 > Mobile: +61 4 8819 4402 > Home Phone: +61 7 3286 7700 > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.cmis.csiro.au/bill.venables/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Matthew Keller > Sent: Monday, 22 October 2007 9:45 AM > To: R list > Subject: [R] Input appreciated: R teaching idea + a way to improve > R-wiki > > Hi all, > > I will be teaching a graduate-level course on R at CU Boulder next > semester. I have a teaching idea that might also help improve the R > wiki page... I wanted to know what you all thought of it and wanted to > solicit some advice about doing it. > > During the latter part of the course, students will choose a topic of > interest (e.g., hierarchical linear modeling), and show how to achieve > it in R. They would present their findings to the class, and would > also be responsible for writing a concise but well-written "How To" > manual on the topic. These would be ~ 5-10 pages and would include > basic background of the statistical procedure and a commented example > with code in R. The goal would be for these to read like Baron & Li's > "Notes on the use of R for psychology experiments and questionnaires." > > Originally I was going to post these as PDFs on my own web-page and > let them grow into a compendium of how-to manuals as I teach this > course over the years. However, perhaps a better idea, and one that > probably benefits more people, is to have my students post their short > manuals (not as PDFs but rather typed in) on the R-wiki page. > > Does this seem like a good idea to folks? > > Another question has to do with how barren the current R wiki page > is... is it still being actively developed or has the community given > up on it? > > Finally, any thoughts on where on the R-wiki site we should post our > "How To" manuals? The "tips and tricks" section seems to barely be > more than snippets of conversations from this list-serve (often sans > the context). My guess is that the "Guides" section is where these > should go. > > Your input would be most appreciated. Best, > > Matt > > > > -- > Matthew C Keller > Asst. Professor of Psychology > University of Colorado at Boulder > www.matthewckeller.com > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
