Bob, i'm confused. You try a search with "Google Scholar" or with "Google Insights for search"?
--- useful references for "Google Insights for search": * matching terms: http://www.google.com/support/insights/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=94777 * interpreting search volumes: http://www.google.com/support/insights/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=92769 --- useful references for "Google Scholar" http://scholar.google.com/intl/en/scholar/refinesearch.html --- Seems that the OR option in "Google Scholar" doesn't work. Try to conctact the Google Scholar Support Centre: http://www.google.com/support/scholar/bin/request.py?contact_type=general On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) <muenc...@utk.edu>wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Joris Meys [mailto:jorism...@gmail.com] > >Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:10 PM > >To: Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) > >Cc: Dario Solari; r-help@r-project.org > >Subject: Re: [R] Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata... > > > >>>I had taken the opposite tack with Google Trends by subtracting > >> keywords > >>>like: > >>>SAS -shoes -airlines -sonar... > >>>but never got as good results as that beautiful "X code for" search. > >>>When you see the end-of-semester panic bumps in traffic, you know > >> you're > >>>nailing it! > >> > >> I have to eat those words already. The "R code for" search that > showed > >a > >> peak every December did not have quotes around it, so it was > searching > >> for those three words not the complete phrase. When you add the > >quotes, > >> the peaks vanish. > > > >Don't swallow! You're looking through search terms, not through web > >pages. R code for regression, regression code R etc. are all valid > >searches, no quotation marks needed. > > I wondered why those clear peaks had vanished when I added quotes. > Here's one that combines the search terms without the quotes. It shows > several March/April & October/November peaks: > > http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=r%20code%20for%2Br%20manual%2Br > %20tutorial%2Br%20graph%2Csas%20code%20for%2Bsas%20manual%2Bsas%20tutori > al%2Bsas%20graph%2Cspss%20code%20for%2Bspss%20manual%2Bspss%20tutorial%2 > Bspss%20graph%2Cstata%20code%20for%2Bstata%20manual%2Bstata%20tutorial%2 > Bstata%20graph%2Cs-plus%20code%20for%2Bs-plus%20manual%2Bs-plus%20tutori > al%2Bs-plus%20graph&cmpt=q > > I've been trying to make sense of Google Scholar searches. I'm obviously > missing something basic. Here are two searches on www.google.com: > > sas - gets 68M hits > sas OR spss - gets 74.3M hits. A bigger number as "OR" would imply. > > But when I do the same searches on scholar.google.com, here's what I > get: > > sas - gets 4.6M hits > sas OR spss - gets 1.65M hits > > How on earth can an "OR" get you less?? > > Thanks, > Bob > > > > >http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=code%20for%20r%2Ccode%20for%20 > S > >AS%2Ccode%20for%20SPSS%2Ccode%20for%20matlab&cmpt=q > > > >This one is nice too. You can see that the bump in the autumn semester > >for R is replacing the one for Matlab. Then in the spring semester > >Matlab stays high but R drops. And both the US and India always have a > >very large search index, whereas the rest of the world is essentially > >worthless. Which leads me to the conclusion that : 1) The results are > >probably coming from google.com, excluding local versions, and 2) in > >the US (and India), statistics is mainly taught in the autumn > >semester. Given the fact that daylight has a beneficial effect on the > >emotional well being, the impopularity of statistics is likely caused > >by unfortunate scheduling. > > > >Forget Excel. Google rocks! ;-) > > > >Cheers > >Joris > > > >> > >> Once you go the phrase route, you gain precision but end up with zero > >> counts on various phrases. I avoided that by combining them with "+" > >to > >> get enough to plot. The resulting graph shows SAS dominant until > >> mid-2006 when SPSS takes the top position, followed by R, SAS, Stata > >in > >> order: > >> > >> > >http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=%22r%20code%20for%22%2B%22r%20 > m > >> > >anual%22%2B%22r%20tutorial%22%2B%22r%20graph%22%2C%22sas%20code%20for%2 > 2 > >> > >%2B%22sas%20manual%22%2B%22sas%20tutorial%22%2B%22sas%20graph%22%2C%22s > p > >> > >ss%20code%20for%22%2B%22spss%20manual%22%2B%22spss%20tutorial%22%2B%22s > p > >> > >ss%20graph%22%2C%22stata%20code%20for%22%2B%22stata%20manual%22%2B%22st > a > >> ta%20tutorial%22%2B%22stata%20graph%22%2C%22s- > >plus%20code%20for%22%2B%22 > >> s-plus%20manual%22%2Bs-plus%20tutorial%22%2B%22s- > >plus%20graph%22&cmpt=q > >> > >> This might be a good one to add to http://r4stats.com/popularity > >> > >> Bob > >> > >>> > >>>I see that there's a car, the R Code Mustang, that adding "for" gets > >> rid > >>>of. > >>> > >>>Thanks for getting me back on a topic that I had given up on! > >>> > >>>Bob > >>> > >>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org > >>>[mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] > >>>>On Behalf Of Joris Meys > >>>>Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:56 PM > >>>>To: Dario Solari > >>>>Cc: r-help@r-project.org > >>>>Subject: Re: [R] Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata... > >>>> > >>>>Nice idea, but quite sensitive to search terms, if you compare your > >>>>result on "... code" with "... code for": > >>>>http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=r%20code%20for%2Csas%20code > % > >2 > >> 0 > >>>f > >>>>or%2Cspss%20code%20for&cmpt=q > >>>> > >>>>On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Dario Solari > >> <dario.sol...@gmail.com> > >>>>wrote: > >>>>> First: excuse for my english > >>>>> > >>>>> My opinion: a useful font for measuring "popoularity" can be > Google > >>>>> Insights for Search - http://www.google.com/insights/search/# > >>>>> > >>>>> Every person using a software like R, SAS, SPSS needs first to > >learn > >>>>> it. So probably he make a web-search for a manual, a tutorial, a > >>>>> guide. One can measure the share of this kind of serach query. > >>>>> This kind of results can be useful to determine trends of > >>>>> "popularity". > >>>>> > >>>>> Example 1: "R tutorial/manual/guide", "SAS tutorial/manual/guide", > >>>>> "SPSS tutorial/manual/guide" > >>>>> > >>>>http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=%22r%20tutorial%22%2B%22r%2 > 0 > >m > >> a > >>>n > >>>>ual%22%2B%22r%20guide%22%2B%22r%20vignette%22%2C%22spss%20tutorial%2 > 2 > >% > >> 2 > >>>B > >>>>%22spss%20manual%22%2B%22spss%20guide%22%2C%22sas%20tutorial%22%2B%2 > 2 > >s > >> a > >>>s > >>>>%20manual%22%2B%22sas%20guide%22&cmpt=q > >>>>> > >>>>> Example 2: "R software", "SAS software", "SPSS software" > >>>>> > >>>>http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=%22r%20software%22%2C%22sps > s > >% > >> 2 > >>>0 > >>>>software%22%2C%22sas%20software%22&cmpt=q > >>>>> > >>>>> Example 3: "R code", "SAS code", "SPSS code" > >>>>> > >>>>http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=%22r%20code%22%2C%22spss%20 > c > >o > >> d > >>>e > >>>>%22%2C%22sas%20code%22&cmpt=q > >>>>> > >>>>> Example 4: "R graph", "SAS graph", "SPSS graph" > >>>>> > >>>>http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=%22r%20graph%22%2C%22spss%2 > 0 > >g > >> r > >>>a > >>>>ph%22%2C%22sas%20graph%22&cmpt=q > >>>>> > >>>>> Example 5: "R regression", "SAS regression", "SPSS regression" > >>>>> > >>>>http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=%22r%20regression%22%2C%22s > p > >s > >> s > >>>% > >>>>20regression%22%2C%22sas%20regression%22&cmpt=q > >>>>> > >>>>> Some example are cross-software (learning needs - Example1), other > >>>can > >>>>> be biased by the tarditional use of that software (in SPSS usually > >>>you > >>>>> don't manipulate graph, i think) > >>>>> > >>>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>>> R-help@r-project.org mailing list > >>>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > >>>>> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting- > >>>>guide.html > >>>>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>Joris Meys > >>>>Statistical consultant > >>>> > >>>>Ghent University > >>>>Faculty of Bioscience Engineering > >>>>Department of Applied mathematics, biometrics and process control > >>>> > >>>>tel : +32 9 264 59 87 > >>>>joris.m...@ugent.be > >>>>------------------------------- > >>>>Disclaimer : http://helpdesk.ugent.be/e-maildisclaimer.php > >>>> > >>>>______________________________________________ > >>>>R-help@r-project.org mailing list > >>>>https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > >>>>PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting- > >>>>guide.html > >>>>and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > >>> > >>>______________________________________________ > >>>R-help@r-project.org mailing list > >>>https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > >>>PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting- > >>>guide.html > >>>and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >Joris Meys > >Statistical consultant > > > >Ghent University > >Faculty of Bioscience Engineering > >Department of Applied mathematics, biometrics and process control > > > >tel : +32 9 264 59 87 > >joris.m...@ugent.be > >------------------------------- > >Disclaimer : http://helpdesk.ugent.be/e-maildisclaimer.php > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
