Muenchen, Robert A (Bob) wrote:

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On Behalf Of Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 3:08 PM
To: Joris Meys; Dario Solari
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...

I had taken the opposite tack with Google Trends by subtracting
keywords
like:
SAS -shoes -airlines -sonar...
but never got as good results as that beautiful "X code for" search.
When you see the end-of-semester panic bumps in traffic, you know
you're
nailing it!

I have to eat those words already. The "R code for" search that showed a
peak every December did not have quotes around it, so it was searching
for those three words not the complete phrase. When you add the quotes,
the peaks vanish.
Once you go the phrase route, you gain precision but end up with zero
counts on various phrases. I avoided that by combining them with "+" to
get enough to plot. The resulting graph shows SAS dominant until
mid-2006 when SPSS takes the top position, followed by R, SAS, Stata in
order:

http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=%22r%20code%20for%22%2B%22r%20m
anual%22%2B%22r%20tutorial%22%2B%22r%20graph%22%2C%22sas%20code%20for%22
%2B%22sas%20manual%22%2B%22sas%20tutorial%22%2B%22sas%20graph%22%2C%22sp
ss%20code%20for%22%2B%22spss%20manual%22%2B%22spss%20tutorial%22%2B%22sp
ss%20graph%22%2C%22stata%20code%20for%22%2B%22stata%20manual%22%2B%22sta
ta%20tutorial%22%2B%22stata%20graph%22%2C%22s-plus%20code%20for%22%2B%22
s-plus%20manual%22%2Bs-plus%20tutorial%22%2B%22s-plus%20graph%22&cmpt=q

This might be a good one to add to http://r4stats.com/popularity

It is also something that people considering a position with a CRO or Pharma might want to look at (at least for clinical trials). Looks to me like the outsourcing of stats jobs continues...

Best,

Jim



Bob

I see that there's a car, the R Code Mustang, that adding "for" gets
rid
of.

Thanks for getting me back on a topic that I had given up on!

Bob

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On Behalf Of Joris Meys
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:56 PM
To: Dario Solari
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...

Nice idea, but quite sensitive to search terms, if you compare your
result on "... code" with "... code for":
http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=r%20code%20for%2Csas%20code%2
0
f
or%2Cspss%20code%20for&cmpt=q

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Dario Solari
<dario.sol...@gmail.com>
wrote:
First: excuse for my english

My opinion: a useful font for measuring "popoularity" can be Google
Insights for Search - http://www.google.com/insights/search/#

Every person using a software like R, SAS, SPSS needs first to learn
it. So probably he make a web-search for a manual, a tutorial, a
guide. One can measure the share of this kind of serach query.
This kind of results can be useful to determine trends of
"popularity".

Example 1: "R tutorial/manual/guide", "SAS tutorial/manual/guide",
"SPSS tutorial/manual/guide"

http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=%22r%20tutorial%22%2B%22r%20m
a
n
ual%22%2B%22r%20guide%22%2B%22r%20vignette%22%2C%22spss%20tutorial%22%
2
B
%22spss%20manual%22%2B%22spss%20guide%22%2C%22sas%20tutorial%22%2B%22s
a
s
%20manual%22%2B%22sas%20guide%22&cmpt=q
Example 2: "R software", "SAS software", "SPSS software"

http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=%22r%20software%22%2C%22spss%
2
0
software%22%2C%22sas%20software%22&cmpt=q
Example 3: "R code", "SAS code", "SPSS code"

http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=%22r%20code%22%2C%22spss%20co
d
e
%22%2C%22sas%20code%22&cmpt=q
Example 4: "R graph", "SAS graph", "SPSS graph"

http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=%22r%20graph%22%2C%22spss%20g
r
a
ph%22%2C%22sas%20graph%22&cmpt=q
Example 5: "R regression", "SAS regression", "SPSS regression"

http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=%22r%20regression%22%2C%22sps
s
%
20regression%22%2C%22sas%20regression%22&cmpt=q
Some example are cross-software (learning needs - Example1), other
can
be biased by the tarditional use of that software (in SPSS usually
you
don't manipulate graph, i think)

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