On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Sören Vogel wrote:
Hello, after calculating a multinomial logit regression on my data, I compared the output to an output retrieved with SPSS 18 (Mac). The coefficients appear to be the same, but the logLik (and therefore fit) values differ widely. Why?
The likelihood is arbitrary. It is the difference in likelihoods that is important and in this respect the answers you got from the two software packages (delta deviance= 5.22) is equivalent. If you run logistic models with individual records versus using grouped data for equivalent models with the same software, the reported deviance will be widely different but the comparison of nested models will imply the same inferential conclusions.
-- David.
The regression in R: set.seed(1234) df <- data.frame( "y"=factor(sample(LETTERS[1:3], 143, repl=T, prob=c(4, 1, 10))), "a"=sample(1:5, 143, repl=T), "b"=sample(1:7, 143, repl=T), "c"=sample(1:2, 143, repl=T) ) library(nnet) mod1 <- multinom(y ~ ., data=df, trace=F) deviance(mod1) # 199.0659 mod0 <- update(mod1, . ~ 1, trace=FALSE) deviance(mod0) # 204.2904 Output data and syntax for SPSS: df2 <- df df2[, 1] <- as.numeric(df[, 1]) write.csv(df2, file="dfxy.csv", row.names=F, na="") syntaxfile <- "dfxy.sps" cat('GET DATA /TYPE=TXT /FILE=\'', getwd(), '/dfxy.csv\' /DELCASE=LINE /DELIMITERS="," /QUALIFIER=\'"\' /ARRANGEMENT=DELIMITED /FIRSTCASE=2 /IMPORTCASE=ALL /VARIABLES= y "F1.0" a "F8.4" b "F8.4" c "F8.4". CACHE. EXECUTE. DATASET NAME DataSet1 WINDOW=FRONT. VALUE LABELS /y 1 "A" 2 "B" 3 "C". EXECUTE. NOMREG y (BASE=1 ORDER=ASCENDING) WITH a b c /CRITERIA CIN(95) DELTA(0) MXITER(100) MXSTEP(5) CHKSEP(20) LCONVERGE(0) PCONVERGE(0.000001) SINGULAR(0.00000001) /MODEL /STEPWISE=PIN(.05) POUT(0.1) MINEFFECT(0) RULE(SINGLE) ENTRYMETHOD(LR) REMOVALMETHOD(LR) /INTERCEPT=INCLUDE /PRINT=FIT PARAMETER SUMMARY LRT CPS STEP MFI IC. ', file=syntaxfile, sep="", append=F) -> Loglik0: 135.02 -> Loglik1: 129.80 Thanks, Sören ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
David Winsemius, MD West Hartford, CT ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.