I did not start out liking <-, but I am quite attached to it now, and even Rcpp feels weird to me now. This may seem like yet another variation on a theme that you don't find compelling, but I find that
f(x=x) makes sense when scope is considered, but x=x on its own is silly. That is why I prefer to reserve = for assigning parameters... I use it to clarify that I am crossing scope boundaries, while <- never does. (<<- is a dangerous animal, though... to be used only locally in nested function definitions). In my view, this is similar to preferring == from C-derived syntaxes over the overloaded = from, say, Basic. I am sure you can get by with the syntactic overloading, but if you have the option of reducing ambiguity, why not use it? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Newmiller The ..... ..... Go Live... DCN:<jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us> Basics: ##.#. ##.#. Live Go... Live: OO#.. Dead: OO#.. Playing Research Engineer (Solar/Batteries O.O#. #.O#. with /Software/Embedded Controllers) .OO#. .OO#. rocks...1k --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity. On February 2, 2015 5:57:05 PM PST, Steve Taylor <steve.tay...@aut.ac.nz> wrote: >Responding to several messages in this thread... > >> > All the more reason to use = instead of <- >> Definitely not! > >Martin and Rolf are right, it's not a reason for that; I wrote that >quickly without thinking it through. An "=" user might be more likely >to fall for the gotcha, if not spacing their code nicely. So the >lesson learned from the gotcha is that it's good to space your code >nicely, as others have siad, not which assignment symbol to use. > >However, I continue to use "=" for assignment on a daily basis without >any problems, as I have done for many years. I remain unconvinced by >any and all of these arguments against it in favour of "<-". People >telling me that I "should" use the arrow need better agruments than >what I've seen so far. > >I find "<-" ugly and "->" useless/pointless, whereas "=" is simpler and >also nicely familiar from my experience in other languages. It doesn't >matter to me that "=" is not commutative because I don't need it to be. > >> Further it can be nicely marked up by a real "left arrow" >> by e.g. the listings LaTeX 'listings' package... > >Now that's just silly, turning R code into graphical characters that >are not part of the R language. > >> foo(x = y) and foo(x <- y) > >I'm well aware of this distinction and it never causes me any problems. >The latter is an example of bad (obfuscated) coding, IMHO; it should be >done in two lines for clarity as follows: > >x = y >foo(x) > >> Using = has it's problems too. >Same goes for apostrophes. > >Shall we discuss putting "else" at the start of line next? > >cheers, > Steve > >______________________________________________ >R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >PLEASE do read the posting guide >http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.