On 25/01/2016 3:33 PM, Hasan Diwan wrote:
There exists a fine line between being unintentionally rude, but helpful and purposely putting someone down. -- H
I'm afraid I don't think your point is relevant. I didn't claim all the people who were rude did it unintentionally. However, I don't know anyone on the list who is always rude and never helpful. Oliver claimed almost everyone is like that.
I actually agree with a weaker version of John's proposal (which I cut out of my reply to Oliver). I can imagine a public reprimand from one of the moderators would be appropriate. It would never be appropriate from general list members; that's what leads to flame wars.
I'm not a moderator, so I would not publicly "remind the poster to reply in a more moderate tone", and neither should you (unless you're a moderator). It would be much better if one or both of us posted a more helpful response when we saw a rude, unhelpful one.
Duncan Murdoch
On 25 January 2016 at 12:07, Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 25/01/2016 2:45 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote: > >> I disagree, and would argue that fails to take a systemic view of this >> kind of behaviour. >> >> If individual commentators are acerbic and are only privately >> reprimanded, from the perspective of everyone else it looks like the >> acerbic reply was A-OK. Someone said something unnecessarily hostile >> and the response was...nada. That creates an environment where there >> are no clear examples of what crosses a line and no clear expectation >> that moderation is even a thing that happens. Indeed, I was shocked to >> discover this list _was_ moderated precisely because all I see is >> people being mean and nothing much else happening. >> > > Why would you bother to read it if that's all you see? I think there are > examples of posts here which are not at all helpful, and others which are > rude, but the majority are actually helpful (even some of the rude ones). > > Duncan Murdoch > > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >
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