On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Petr PIKAL <petr.pi...@precheza.cz> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Rainer M Krug <r.m.k...@gmail.com> napsal dne 07.10.2009 12:09:21:
>
> >
>
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Petr PIKAL <petr.pi...@precheza.cz>
> wrote:
> > r-help-boun...@r-project.org napsal dne 07.10.2009 11:37:22:
> >
> > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Petr PIKAL <petr.pi...@precheza.cz>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Try ?twoord.plot from plotrix package.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Thanks Petr - I was not aeware of this command.
> > > But I would prefer a more general solution. An example on where I am
> > using
> > > is, to plot a histogram overlayed by its density estimate (easier to
> > digest
> > > for others then only a density estimate).
>
> > That is quite different from your example.
> >
> > Well - in both cases, I want to overlay two graphs - in my example, it
> is a
> > line and a point plot, in the other a histogram and a density estimate.
> >
> > I believe overlay of density
> > curve over histogram was discussed several times e.g.
> > http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/e4/help/08/06/14198.html
> >
> > Thanks - but if I want to have the histogram with counts (freq=TRUE),
> then I
> > have exactly the situation I was talking about - sorry for not being
> clear:
> >
> > x <- rnorm(200)
> > hist(x, col = "blue", freq = TRUE)
> > lines(density(x), col = "red", lwd = 2)
> >
> > i.e.
> > left y-axis (histogram): count
> > right y-axis (density estimate): probability density
>
> > > And a newY() (or par(newY=TRUE) command would enable exactly this.
>
> > This is something beyond my knowledge and it could be that this need
> some
> > deep redefining in base R graphics.
>
> >
> > That's what I guess as well - let's see.
>
>
> In the meantime, what about
>
> x <- rnorm(200)
> hist(x, col = "blue", freq = TRUE)
> ddd<-density(x)
> lines(ddd$x, ddd$y*100, col = "red", lwd = 2)
>
> and then add suitable y axis.
>
> axis(4, at=pretty(ddd$y*100), labels=pretty(ddd$y), col=2)
>

Yes - that definitely works.

I usually use the following approach: determine the xlims in advance, and
then set them manually for each plot:

x <- rnorm(200)
xlim <- trunc(range(x)) + c(-1, +1)

hist(x, col = "blue", freq = TRUE, xlim=xlim)
par(new=TRUE)
plot(density(x), xlim=xlim, ann=FALSE, axes=FALSE)
axis(4)

But it is sometimes tricky to get the xlims for the plot.

>
> Regards
> Petr
>
>
> >
> > Rainer
> >
> > Regards
> > Petr
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Rainer
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Petr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > r-help-boun...@r-project.org napsal dne 07.10.2009 10:29:53:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > is there an alternative to par(new), for ading data to a plot for
> a
> > > > > different y-axis?
> > > > > My problem with par(new=TRUE) is, that it re-defines all axis and
> > labels
> > > > (as
> > > > > in example 1) and one has to use xlim=... to fix the x-axis.
> > > > > I am looking for something, which simply resets the y-axis, so
> that
> > a
> > > > new
> > > > > plot() (or points()/lines()) keeps the x-axis, but re-defines the
> > > > y-axis.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there something available? I could re-scale the y-data to fit
> the
> > > > > existing y-axis, but that would mean to define all the labels and
> > > > tickmarks
> > > > > for axis 4 manually.
> > > > >
> > > > > HEre is an example about what I mean:
> > > > >
> > > > > x1 <- 1:10
> > > > > y1 <- runif(10)
> > > > > x2 <- 1:11
> > > > > y2 <- c(y1*100, 0)
> > > > >
> > > > > ## (1) Does not plot points where (x-axis) they should be
> > > > > plot(x1, y1, type="l")
> > > > > par(new=TRUE)
> > > > > plot(x2, y2, type="p")
> > > > > axis(4)
> > > > >
> > > > > ## (2) Does plot points where (x-axis) they should be
> > > > > xlim <- range(x1)
> > > > > plot(x1, y1, type="l", xlim=xlim)
> > > > > par(new=TRUE)
> > > > > plot(x2, y2, type="p", xlim=xlim)
> > > > > axis(4)
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Rainer
> > > > > --
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UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

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