>
>
>
> > On 12 Jan 2026, at 14:37, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal via
> R-package-devel <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > For what it is worth in my case as far as I can tell the behaviors of
> both devtools::submit_cran and the cran machine were quote reasonable,
> even if it caused me a little pain.  The block Uwe describes sounds like
> fail2ban or the like,  and given the junk we see hitting our services  it
> is a reasonable thing to run.  I had the day wrong when I thought cran was
> back up.  devtools on submission said ti couldn’t connect,  It is not
> unreasonable as a submitter, thinking the machine was back up,  to wait a
> bit,  and  try again,  and maybe do so a few times throughout the day.
> That is indeed what I did.  Then to be sure it wasn’t a devtools problem I
> went to the web page  and that is when it seemed to block me.
> >
> > So my point is everything to my mind behaved reasonably.  The only thing
> I could suggest,  and I have no idea of how much work this would entail,
> and I am not looking to make work for people,  is perhaps a banner on the
> webpage when the service is down,
>
>
> That’s the thing - there *was* a red banner that said no submissions are
> accepted so everyone using the official CRAN way was fine, it’s the
> back-door access by devtools that caused the problems. The issue is that
> once devtools got you blocked, it was too late so you couldn’t go back and
> see that you were not supposed to use it since your IP was already on the
> blacklist even for the official front-end. Clearly, devtools needs to be
> fixed to make sure it’s not submitting things blindly when it’s not
> supposed - probably with some help from the CRAN admin team to make sure
> there is a well-defiled path for this.


Would it be possible for the form to be blocked as well as the submission
page? Typically web servers return a 404 or a 403 when a page isn't
available.

I can of course scrape the submission page, but now that the message is
gone, I don't know what to look for.

Hadley

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