Maybe this would be an appropriate time to mention http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php?id=tips:spatial-data:when_to_use
How would list members answer this question? David Hugh-Jones PhD Candidate Essex University Department of Government http://davidhughjones.googlepages.com 2008/7/3 John Callahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I agree. It's difficult to see any reason that someone who currently > uses R/GRASS would go to ESRI for spatial statistics. I come from a > long history as an ESRI user with an interest in spatial stats. As > others have said, ArcGIS may give you the basics quickly and easily, but > it is limited and expensive. > > Actually, ESRI giving spatial statistics any kind of attention is a > bonus for R users. The new ArcGIS spatial stats functions may draw in > some typical GIS users to take a look (just like the ArcGIS GeoStat ext > did years ago), but once they need to do more intensive work, or modify > parameters, or deal with larger datasets, or get tired of crashes, > etc..., they will look elsewhere (again, like ArcGIS GeoStat did), and > R/GRASS is right there waiting. > > - John > > **************************************** > John Callahan > Geospatial Application Developer > > Delaware Geological Survey > University of Delaware > 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501 > Tel: (302) 831-3584 > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.dgs.udel.edu > **************************************** > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Paul, >> >> Not to mention the huge cost of ESRI products and the fact that they run >> only on the MS-Windows platform. R also integrates well with GRASS GIS. >> Personally, I can not see any compelling reasons to go the ESRI route vs >> R/GRASS… >> >> I feel a great debt of gratitude to the selfless developers of R & GRASS! >> >> Tom >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Paul Hiemstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008 7:54 am >> Subject: Re: [R-sig-Geo] Impact of ArcGIS 8.3 beta's new spatial statistical >> functions in its Spatial Analyst Extension >> >> >>> Dear Hisaji, >>> >>> I think that the choice of people for R is not only based on the >>> fact >>> that a certain method is only available in R. R is much more >>> flexible in >>> working with data, allows scripting, allows you to see exactly how >>> a >>> method works, allows you to extend or develop methods and if you >>> write >>> in script files it also provides a record of what you have done. >>> Apart >>> from spatial analysis, R also provides a very wide range of >>> "normal" >>> statistical methods that are not available in ArcGIS (linear >>> regression >>> and such). >>> >>> So I don't think a lot of people will forsake R once a few more >>> methods >>> become available in ArcGIS. >>> >>> regards, >>> Paul >>> >>> Hisaji ONO wrote: >>> >>>> Hi. >>>> >>>> What do you think about ArcGIS 8.3's new statistical >>>> functions(Calculation of spatial or network, GWR, >>>> Global/Local Moran, Gi etc.) in its Spatial Analyst >>>> Extension described in >>>> >>>> >>> http://webhelp.esri.com/arcgisdesktop/9.3/pdf/Whats_New_In_ArcGIS_93.pdf?> >>> >>>> Current R's spdep's and spgwr's and others' end users >>>> will loose interests of them and go to use ESRI's apart >>>> from R's? >>>> >>>> And will decrease activities of developments of >>>> (geo)spatial data analysis tools in R? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> R-sig-Geo mailing list >>>> R-sig-Geo@stat.math.ethz.ch >>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-geo >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Drs. Paul Hiemstra >>> Department of Physical Geography >>> Faculty of Geosciences >>> University of Utrecht >>> Heidelberglaan 2 >>> P.O. Box 80.115 >>> 3508 TC Utrecht >>> Phone: +31302535773 >>> Fax: +31302531145 >>> http://intamap.geo.uu.nl/~paul >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> R-sig-Geo mailing list >>> R-sig-Geo@stat.math.ethz.ch >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-geo >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> R-sig-Geo mailing list >> R-sig-Geo@stat.math.ethz.ch >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-geo >> > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > _______________________________________________ > R-sig-Geo mailing list > R-sig-Geo@stat.math.ethz.ch > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-geo > > _______________________________________________ R-sig-Geo mailing list R-sig-Geo@stat.math.ethz.ch https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-geo