Paul Johnson wrote: > I've just run the alltips program and did generate a big html file. > > http://pj.freefaculty.org/R/alltips.html > > That piece of programming is very amazing to me. How in the heck can a > stat program on my laptop cobble together a web page? If R had a > function to write a file onto a remote site , this could be completely > automated. > > I could post something like that on a regular basis. That certainly > proves it is possible. > > So far, I've noticed some problems. > > 1. Links inside alltips.html don't work. They point internally to > places in the Wiki, not to anchors in alltips itself. > > 2. Is there a way to have numbers generated for these tips? So that > we can refer to them by number? > > 3. The tips appear without logical sequencing in alltips.html. I > wish there were a way to designate the placement. I don't expect > there is a Wiki solution for that, however.
Yes, this is a first draft certainly. Also, the various styles must be refined (R code prints too small on my machine). > > In the next week, I will try to learn how to input stuff into the WIki > and I'll also try to make a list of things in Rtips that I think are > most valuable. One solution would be to select a list of relevant tips and sort them. This would certainly be possible to do. PhG > Honestly, some of the tips I have are pretty old or out of date. > > > PJ > > On 6/9/06, Philippe Grosjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Hello all, >> >>First, I would like to answer to Paul Johnson. The decision to separate >>Rtips into sections and have one page per tip is motivated both by >>technical reasons (already discussed, a wiki is more efficient with >>separate small pages than a big one), and for practical reasons. When >>Rtips remains rather small and managed by one people, like your current >>version of it, it is much easier to handle in one big page. Now, imagine >>that the R Wiki tips section gains popularity and that (just imagine!) >>hundreds of authors write thousands of tips. How would you manage a >>single web page containing these thousands of tips? How do you find tips >>related to, say, handling of data frames, in this big page? How will >>someone with a low-speed Internet connexion get the last tip that he is >>interested in, from this long page (he has to download all the rest first)? >> >>I think that both presentations (several little page versus a single >>large one) have pros and cons. The suggestion to make a digest of the >>tips in the R Wiki, as an alternate presentation, makes much sense in >>this context. Romain François proposed a script for that. A good >>starting basis to automate the creation of that "Rtips digest". Would >>you be happy with this solution? >> >>Regarding the progress made with the R Wiki. This was also a very busy >>time for me. I did my best to finish the Wiki engine for the UseR!2006 >>workshop. I still have a couple of aspects to finalize (presentation >>with the sidebar, the Rdconv --wiki is *almost* done, plus a couple of >>other details). >> >>Anyway, whatever where we are now, we should officially launch the R >>Wiki next week at the UseR!2006 workshop. A presentation is planned on >>thursday (see >>http://www.r-project.org/useR-2006/Abstracts/Grosjean.pdf). It would be >>also an occasion to recruit other volunteers to help in migrating >>material to the Wiki. I think that the priority is to write some initial >>material for the empty sections, like "getting-started:what-is-r", >>"getting-started:faq" (this is rather easy: it is the wiki version of >>the various official FAQ documents, but with the possibility to append >>comments for the wiki users), "getting-started:case-studies", >>"guides:books". Another priority is to migrate material from the first R >>Wiki by Detlef Steuer. >> >>Thank you to all wiki authors or "migrators". The progress is slower >>than expected, but we have already achieved a pretty good result, I think. >> >>Best, >> >>Philippe >> >>..............................................<°}))><........ >> ) ) ) ) ) >>( ( ( ( ( Prof. Philippe Grosjean >> ) ) ) ) ) >>( ( ( ( ( Numerical Ecology of Aquatic Systems >> ) ) ) ) ) Mons-Hainaut University, Pentagone (3D08) >>( ( ( ( ( Academie Universitaire Wallonie-Bruxelles >> ) ) ) ) ) 8, av du Champ de Mars, 7000 Mons, Belgium >>( ( ( ( ( >> ) ) ) ) ) phone: + 32.65.37.34.97, fax: + 32.65.37.30.54 >>( ( ( ( ( email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ) ) ) ) ) >>( ( ( ( ( web: http://www.umh.ac.be/~econum >> ) ) ) ) ) http://www.sciviews.org >>( ( ( ( ( >>.............................................................. >> >>Nick Drew wrote: >> >>>Like others, I've been busy and not made the kind of progress >>>of converting Rtips to the R Wiki that I've wanted to. I had hoped to have >>>section 1 (Data input/output) done by now, but there is still >>>1.5 - 1.7 left on that section. >>> >>>I'm willing to continue to help with this. I will finish section 1 >>>by the end of next week. However, I don't see me making >>>much progress during our warm summer months here in Oregon. >>> >>>Perhaps we could generate a list of which sections of >>>Rtips have been converted. Then others would know where to >>>continue if they desire. >>> >>>~Nick >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ben Bolker >>>Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 4:02 AM >>>To: Paul Johnson >>>Cc: [email protected] >>>Subject: Re: [R-wiki] R Wiki: What do you want me to do now about tips? >>> >>> >>> Having seen no answer thus far: >>> >>> Parts but not all of Rtips have been migrated to the R wiki >>>(I'd make a wild guess of about 30-50%.) My personal preference >>>would be migration. Apparently DocuWiki doesn't have a "single >>>page" view, but there was some discussion on the list about how >>>to run a script etc. to take a snapshot -- see the April archives >>>and Romain Francois' code at >>>http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php?id=tips:misc:alltips . >>>If you were willing (once the migration is complete) to run >>>this as a script on your server (say daily) and post the results ... >>> >>> Work on the Wiki has slowed down once again (perhaps inevitable >>>since so many people are busy). I'd really like to encourage >>>list-readers to keep at it -- would people be willing to make >>>some kind of nominal deadline for at least getting the rest >>>of R-tips moved over/volunteer for sections? >>> >>> cheers >>> Ben Bolker >>> >>> >>>Paul Johnson wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I have this gmail account but can't manage it very well. Too many >>>>messages, too many lists, blah, blah... >>>> >>>>Anyway, I just noticed several messages in this list debating the >>>>question of whether I should maintain Rtips or try to migrate the rest >>>>of the content into the R Wiki. What is that status now? >>>> >>>>My opinion is that some of the things in Rtips are quite seriously >>>>useful, especially "how to save graphs" and "use predict with >>>>regression" but many of the things are tidbits that I accumulated for >>>>one use and never used again. >>>> >>>>I do think it is good if users can just view all the tips on a single >>>>page, as some readers suggested. The one who said I should keep >>>>separate content on Rtips seemed to think the big drawback of the Wiki >>>>was the sub-compartmentlization of information into little pages, and >>>>there is some truth in that. But I've seen other Wiki programs that >>>>could just display all content in a single www post. >>>> >>>>I'm sorry I've not been paying attention, but now it is summer and I >>>>have some time while preparing to teach stats again in the fall, and >>>>so if you (all) tell me what needs to be done, I will do it. >>>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>R-sig-wiki mailing list >>>[email protected] >>>https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-wiki >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>R-sig-wiki mailing list >>>[email protected] >>>https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-wiki >>> >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ R-sig-wiki mailing list [email protected] https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-wiki
