I find that your tips page is easier to read than the automatically generated one although that could likely be solved ultimately be improvements to the script.
I do find all the various colours somewhat distracting and hard to read on the generated web page. (this is also true of the rest of the wiki too) I suggest you maintain your page until the script gets to the point where its comparable in legibility to your hand done one. On 6/9/06, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've just run the alltips program and did generate a big html file. > > http://pj.freefaculty.org/R/alltips.html > > That piece of programming is very amazing to me. How in the heck can a > stat program on my laptop cobble together a web page? If R had a > function to write a file onto a remote site , this could be completely > automated. > > I could post something like that on a regular basis. That certainly > proves it is possible. > > So far, I've noticed some problems. > > 1. Links inside alltips.html don't work. They point internally to > places in the Wiki, not to anchors in alltips itself. > > 2. Is there a way to have numbers generated for these tips? So that > we can refer to them by number? > > 3. The tips appear without logical sequencing in alltips.html. I > wish there were a way to designate the placement. I don't expect > there is a Wiki solution for that, however. > > > In the next week, I will try to learn how to input stuff into the WIki > and I'll also try to make a list of things in Rtips that I think are > most valuable. > > Honestly, some of the tips I have are pretty old or out of date. > > > PJ > > On 6/9/06, Philippe Grosjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > First, I would like to answer to Paul Johnson. The decision to separate > > Rtips into sections and have one page per tip is motivated both by > > technical reasons (already discussed, a wiki is more efficient with > > separate small pages than a big one), and for practical reasons. When > > Rtips remains rather small and managed by one people, like your current > > version of it, it is much easier to handle in one big page. Now, imagine > > that the R Wiki tips section gains popularity and that (just imagine!) > > hundreds of authors write thousands of tips. How would you manage a > > single web page containing these thousands of tips? How do you find tips > > related to, say, handling of data frames, in this big page? How will > > someone with a low-speed Internet connexion get the last tip that he is > > interested in, from this long page (he has to download all the rest first)? > > > > I think that both presentations (several little page versus a single > > large one) have pros and cons. The suggestion to make a digest of the > > tips in the R Wiki, as an alternate presentation, makes much sense in > > this context. Romain François proposed a script for that. A good > > starting basis to automate the creation of that "Rtips digest". Would > > you be happy with this solution? > > > > Regarding the progress made with the R Wiki. This was also a very busy > > time for me. I did my best to finish the Wiki engine for the UseR!2006 > > workshop. I still have a couple of aspects to finalize (presentation > > with the sidebar, the Rdconv --wiki is *almost* done, plus a couple of > > other details). > > > > Anyway, whatever where we are now, we should officially launch the R > > Wiki next week at the UseR!2006 workshop. A presentation is planned on > > thursday (see > > http://www.r-project.org/useR-2006/Abstracts/Grosjean.pdf). It would be > > also an occasion to recruit other volunteers to help in migrating > > material to the Wiki. I think that the priority is to write some initial > > material for the empty sections, like "getting-started:what-is-r", > > "getting-started:faq" (this is rather easy: it is the wiki version of > > the various official FAQ documents, but with the possibility to append > > comments for the wiki users), "getting-started:case-studies", > > "guides:books". Another priority is to migrate material from the first R > > Wiki by Detlef Steuer. > > > > Thank you to all wiki authors or "migrators". The progress is slower > > than expected, but we have already achieved a pretty good result, I think. > > > > Best, > > > > Philippe > > > > ..............................................<°}))><........ > > ) ) ) ) ) > > ( ( ( ( ( Prof. Philippe Grosjean > > ) ) ) ) ) > > ( ( ( ( ( Numerical Ecology of Aquatic Systems > > ) ) ) ) ) Mons-Hainaut University, Pentagone (3D08) > > ( ( ( ( ( Academie Universitaire Wallonie-Bruxelles > > ) ) ) ) ) 8, av du Champ de Mars, 7000 Mons, Belgium > > ( ( ( ( ( > > ) ) ) ) ) phone: + 32.65.37.34.97, fax: + 32.65.37.30.54 > > ( ( ( ( ( email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ) ) ) ) ) > > ( ( ( ( ( web: http://www.umh.ac.be/~econum > > ) ) ) ) ) http://www.sciviews.org > > ( ( ( ( ( > > .............................................................. > > > > Nick Drew wrote: > > > Like others, I've been busy and not made the kind of progress > > > of converting Rtips to the R Wiki that I've wanted to. I had hoped to have > > > section 1 (Data input/output) done by now, but there is still > > > 1.5 - 1.7 left on that section. > > > > > > I'm willing to continue to help with this. I will finish section 1 > > > by the end of next week. However, I don't see me making > > > much progress during our warm summer months here in Oregon. > > > > > > Perhaps we could generate a list of which sections of > > > Rtips have been converted. Then others would know where to > > > continue if they desire. > > > > > > ~Nick > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ben Bolker > > > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 4:02 AM > > > To: Paul Johnson > > > Cc: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [R-wiki] R Wiki: What do you want me to do now about tips? > > > > > > > > > Having seen no answer thus far: > > > > > > Parts but not all of Rtips have been migrated to the R wiki > > > (I'd make a wild guess of about 30-50%.) My personal preference > > > would be migration. Apparently DocuWiki doesn't have a "single > > > page" view, but there was some discussion on the list about how > > > to run a script etc. to take a snapshot -- see the April archives > > > and Romain Francois' code at > > > http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php?id=tips:misc:alltips . > > > If you were willing (once the migration is complete) to run > > > this as a script on your server (say daily) and post the results ... > > > > > > Work on the Wiki has slowed down once again (perhaps inevitable > > > since so many people are busy). I'd really like to encourage > > > list-readers to keep at it -- would people be willing to make > > > some kind of nominal deadline for at least getting the rest > > > of R-tips moved over/volunteer for sections? > > > > > > cheers > > > Ben Bolker > > > > > > > > > Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > > >>I have this gmail account but can't manage it very well. Too many > > >>messages, too many lists, blah, blah... > > >> > > >>Anyway, I just noticed several messages in this list debating the > > >>question of whether I should maintain Rtips or try to migrate the rest > > >>of the content into the R Wiki. What is that status now? > > >> > > >>My opinion is that some of the things in Rtips are quite seriously > > >>useful, especially "how to save graphs" and "use predict with > > >>regression" but many of the things are tidbits that I accumulated for > > >>one use and never used again. > > >> > > >>I do think it is good if users can just view all the tips on a single > > >>page, as some readers suggested. The one who said I should keep > > >>separate content on Rtips seemed to think the big drawback of the Wiki > > >>was the sub-compartmentlization of information into little pages, and > > >>there is some truth in that. But I've seen other Wiki programs that > > >>could just display all content in a single www post. > > >> > > >>I'm sorry I've not been paying attention, but now it is summer and I > > >>have some time while preparing to teach stats again in the fall, and > > >>so if you (all) tell me what needs to be done, I will do it. > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > R-sig-wiki mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-wiki > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > R-sig-wiki mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-wiki > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Paul E. 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