No, no, no claim made one way or the other.  It was just a random
parenthetical association observed while responding.


On Feb 22, 12:43 pm, David Ennocenti <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Are you calling me a conservative?
> Dave E.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:16 AM, delancey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > as fo people are becoming more civilized? I don't think so. Some are,
> > some
> > > are becoming less civilized. Tun on the news, local, national, or world
> > news.
>
> > The news is nothing but anecdotes.  It focuses on the dramatic.
> > That's fine as a social service, but not as a source of representative
> > sampling.
>
> > Interpersonal violence has smoothly declined for centuries (see
> > Pinker's nice discussion of this at TED:
>
> >http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/steven_pinker_on_the_myth_of_viole...
> > ).
> > Slavery, sexism, homocidal homophobia, racism, state torture,
> > sanctioned genocide, the belief that all non-human organisms lack
> > moral value -- a million foul beliefs and practices that were normal
> > as little as a century or even 50 years ago are now socially
> > unacceptable.  Our government is now forced to wage war in secret
> > (e.g., Guatemala, Nicaragua, El Salvador) or with huge disinformation
> > campaigns that limit the time the wars can be waged.  Examples like
> > these can be compounded indefinitely.  Though, perhaps, these trends
> > are largely but not solely in the developed world, such as Europe.
>
> > (As a side note, this is the thing I find most perplexing about
> > conservativism.  Conservatives appear to share a belief that things
> > used to be better.  That's astonishing to me.  It's just false.  As
> > nuts as denying evolutionary theory.)
>
> > We should consider these facts when evaluating the singularity.  Will
> > it be a spinning out of control, or will social factors continue to
> > improve?
>
> > cd
>
> --
> David Ennocenti
> 9 West Crest Drive
> Rochester, NY 14606
> 585-426-2348
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