I listened to "Evil Robot Monkey" (and thought it was actually a really good piece of spec fic, quite contra Jonathan), but none of the others.
I hadn't been reading any fiction to speak of, but decided I ought to for reasons of mental health. Alas, I made the choice about a month ago of tackling *Infinite Jest** to that end, and from what people have told me that's pretty much a *commitment* during which more or less no other fiction gets read. My experience so far bears that out: at my current rate I estimate that I might be done with it in a couple of weeks. -- **IJ*, by the way, quite apart from being "arguably" SF -- as I've characterized it in the past -- is definitely SF, and pretty solid SF at that, at least in the trophic sense. Of course it's always shelved with "literature" and not SF, just as *Grendel* is always and *Once and Future King* usually shelved with literature and not fantasy. Which reminds me of the answer somebody we'd call famous -- I think it was either Ballard or Sterling, but might have been Chabon -- gave when asked something about SF as a genre. "Genres are really just ways of grouping books so you can sell them more easily." (I can recommend it highly, btw, but only if you've got the patience for 1200 pages in highly subjective-voiced prose, about half of which concerns the pathetic misadventures of junkies in Boston.) On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Dave Henn <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm curious - are people listening to/reading the nominees at all? I've > listened to all the shorts from EscapePod, but have not gone much beyond > that, yet, myself. Yes, hypocrisy is rampant. I bow my head in shame. > > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Dave Henn <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks for the direct links, Craig. Remember that you, too, can vote for >> the cost of a supporting membership >> ($55)<http://www.anticipationsf.ca/English/Membership>. >> Please check out available versions of the other stories (novelettes, >> novellas, etc., not all free), as listed at WorldCon's Hugos >> Page<http://www.anticipationsf.ca/English/Hugos> >> : >> >> *Best Novel* >> (639 Ballots) >> >> - >> *Anathem*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0061474096?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0061474096>by >> Neal Stephenson (Morrow; Atlantic UK) >> - *The Graveyard >> Book*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060530928?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0060530928>by >> Neil Gaiman (HarperCollins; Bloomsbury UK) >> - *Little >> Brother*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0765319853?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0765319853>by >> Cory Doctorow (Tor Teen; HarperVoyager UK) — Free >> download <http://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/> >> - *Saturn’s >> Children*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001QXC48Q?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001QXC48Q>by >> Charles Stross (Ace; Orbit UK) >> - *Zoe’s >> Tale*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0765316986?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0765316986>by >> John Scalzi (Tor) >> >> *Best Novella* >> (337 Ballots) >> >> - “The Erdmann Nexus” by Nancy Kress (*Asimov’s* Oct/Nov 2008) – Read >> Online <http://www.asimovs.com/hugos_2009/ErdmannNexus.shtml> >> - “The Political Prisoner” by Charles Coleman Finlay (*F&SF* Aug 2008) >> – Read Online <http://www.sfsite.com/fsf/fiction/ccf01.htm> >> - “The Tear” by Ian McDonald ( *Galactic >> Empires*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1582882916?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1582882916>) >> >> - “True Names” by Benjamin Rosenbaum & Cory Doctorow ( *Fast Forward 2 >> >> *<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159102692X?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=159102692X>) >> — Free download <http://www.feedbooks.com/book/3511> >> - “Truth” by Robert Reed (*Asimov’s* Oct/Nov 2008) – Read >> Online<http://www.asimovs.com/hugos_2009/Truth.shtml> >> >> *Best Novelette* >> (373 Ballots) >> >> - “Alastair Baffle’s Emporium of Wonders” by Mike Resnick (*Asimov’s*Jan >> 2008) — Read >> Online <http://www.asimovs.com/_issue_0801/PBAlistair.shtml> >> - “The Gambler” by Paolo Bacigalupi ( *Fast Forward >> 2*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159102692X?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=159102692X>) >> — Read >> Online<http://pyrsamples.blogspot.com/2008/11/fast-forward-2-paolo-bacigalupis.html> >> - “Pride and Prometheus” by John Kessel (*F&SF* Jan 2008) – Free >> >> Download<http://www4.ncsu.edu/%7Etenshi/documents/Kessel-PrideAndPrometheus.pdf>, >> also available as a two part podcast (part >> 1<http://www4.ncsu.edu/%7Etenshi/PandPPart1.m4a>, >> part 2 <http://www4.ncsu.edu/%7Etenshi/PandPpart22.m4a>) >> - “The Ray-Gun: A Love Story” by James Alan Gardner (*Asimov’s* Feb >> 2008) — Read Online <http://www.asimovs.com/nebulas09/Raygun.shtml> >> - “Shoggoths in Bloom” by Elizabeth Bear (*Asimov’s* Mar 2008) — Read >> Online <http://www.elizabethbear.com/shoggoths.html> >> >> *Best Short Story* >> (448 Ballots) >> >> - “26 Monkeys, Also the Abyss” by Kij Johnson (*Asimov’s* Jul 2008) — Read >> Online <http://www.kijjohnson.com/26_monkeys.htm> >> - “Article of Faith” by Mike Resnick (*Baen’s Universe* Oct 2008) – Read >> Online <http://www.baens-universe.com/articles/Article_of_Faith> >> - “Evil Robot Monkey” by Mary Robinette Kowal ( *The Solaris Book of >> New Science Fiction, Volume >> Two*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1844165426?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1844165426>) >> - Free >> download<http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/evil-robot-monkey/> >> - “Exhalation” by Ted Chiang ( *Eclipse >> Two*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1597801364?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1597801364>) >> - Free download <http://www.nightshadebooks.com/downloads> >> - “From Babel’s Fall’n Glory We Fled” by Michael Swanwick (*Asimov’s*Feb >> 2008) – Read >> Online <http://www.asimovs.com/hugos_2009/Babels.shtml> >> >> *Best Related Book* >> (263 Ballots) >> >> - *Rhetorics of >> Fantasy*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0819568686?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0819568686>by >> Farah Mendlesohn (Wesleyan University Press) – Read >> an extract online <http://www.farahsf.com/extract.htm> >> - *Spectrum 15: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic >> Art*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1599290278?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1599290278>by >> Cathy & Arnie Fenner, eds. (Underwood Books) >> - *The Vorkosigan Companion: The Universe of Lois McMaster >> Bujold*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1416556036?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1416556036>by >> Lillian Stewart Carl & John Helfers, eds. (Baen) >> - *What It Is We Do When We Read Science >> Fiction*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1870824547?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1870824547>by >> Paul Kincaid (Beccon Publications) - /Read >> online <http://www.beccon.org/> >> - *Your Hate Mail Will be Graded: A Decade of Whatever, >> 1998-2008*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596062118?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1596062118>by >> John Scalzi (Subterranean Press) >> >> *Best Graphic Story* >> (212 Ballots) >> >> - *The Dresden Files: Welcome to the >> Jungle*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345507460?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0345507460>Written >> by Jim Butcher, art by Ardian Syaf (Del Rey/Dabel Brothers >> Publishing) >> - *Girl Genius, Volume 8: Agatha Heterodyne and the Chapel of >> Bones*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1890856479?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1890856479>Written >> by Kaja & Phil Foglio, art by Phil Foglio, colors by Cheyenne Wright >> (Airship Entertainment) – Official Site<http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/> >> - *Fables: War and >> Pieces*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401219136?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1401219136>Written >> by Bill Willingham, pencilled by Mark Buckingham, art by Steve >> Leialoha and Andrew Pepoy, color by Lee Loughridge, letters by Todd Klein >> (DC/Vertigo Comics) >> - *Schlock Mercenary: The Body >> Politic*<http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20070520.html>Story and art by >> Howard Tayler (The Tayler Corporation) — Free >> download <http://www.schlockmercenary.com/TBPHugo.pdf> >> - *Serenity: Better >> Days*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1595821627?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1595821627>Written >> by Joss Whedon & Brett Matthews, art by Will Conrad, color by >> Michelle Madsen, cover by Jo Chen (Dark Horse Comics) >> - *Y: The Last Man, Volume 10: Whys and >> Wherefores*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/140121813X?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=140121813X>Written/created >> by Brian K. Vaughan, pencilled/created by Pia Guerra, inked >> by Jose Marzan, Jr. (DC/Vertigo Comics) >> >> *Best Dramatic Presentation, Long Form* >> (436 Ballots) >> >> - *The Dark >> Knight*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GZ6QC4?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001GZ6QC4>Christopher >> Nolan & David S. Goyer, story; Jonathan Nolan and Christopher >> Nolan, screenplay; based on characters created by Bob Kane; Christopher >> Nolan, director (Warner Brothers) >> - *Hellboy II: The Golden >> Army*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001F7MSFM?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001F7MSFM>Guillermo >> del Toro & Mike Mignola, story; Guillermo del Toro, screenplay; >> based on the comic by Mike Mignola; Guillermo del Toro, director (Dark >> Horse, Universal) >> - *Iron >> Man*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001C08RHA?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001C08RHA>Mark >> Fergus & Hawk Ostby and Art Marcum & Matt Holloway, screenplay; based >> on characters created by Stan Lee & Don Heck & Larry Lieber & Jack Kirby; >> Jon Favreau, director (Paramount, Marvel Studios) >> - >> *METAtropolis*<http://www.audible.com/adbl/site/products/ProductDetail.jsp?BV_SessionID=0318003324.1237565959&BV_EngineID=ccceadegkiegmlkcefecekjdffidffj.0&productID=BK_ADBL_000570>by >> John Scalzi, ed. Written by: Elizabeth Bear, Jay Lake, Tobias Buckell, >> John Scalzi and Karl Schroeder (Audible Inc) — Free >> download<http://www.audible.com/adbl/store/welcome.jsp?source_code=TWTV0015WS033009&entryRedirect=/site/products/ProductDetail.jsp&entryParams=%5EproductID%7EFR_ADBL_000570> >> - >> *WALL-E*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013FSL3E?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0013FSL3E>Andrew >> Stanton & Pete Docter, story; Andrew Stanton & Jim Reardon, >> screenplay; Andrew Stanton, director (Pixar/Walt Disney) >> >> *Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form* >> (336 Ballots) >> >> - “The Constant” ( >> *Lost*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018CWEYY?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0018CWEYY>) >> Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindelof, writers; Jack Bender, director (Bad Robot, >> ABC studios) >> - *Doctor Horrible’s Sing-Along >> Blog*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001M5UDGS?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001M5UDGS>Joss >> Whedon, & Zack Whedon, & Jed Whedon & Maurissa Tancharoen , writers; >> Joss Whedon, director (Mutant Enemy) >> - “Revelations” ( *Battlestar >> Galactica*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001HUWQEA?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001HUWQEA>) >> Bradley Thompson & David Weddle, writers; Michael Rymer, director (NBC >> Universal) >> - “Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead” ( *Doctor >> Who*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001DJ7PQ4?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001DJ7PQ4>) >> Steven Moffat, writer; Euros Lyn, director (BBC Wales) >> - “Turn Left” ( *Doctor >> Who*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001DJ7PQ4?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001DJ7PQ4>) >> Russell T. Davies, writer; Graeme Harper, director (BBC Wales) >> >> *Best Editor, Short Form* >> (377 Ballots) >> >> - Ellen Datlow <http://www.sfeditorwatch.com/index.php/Ellen_Datlow> >> - Stanley Schmidt<http://www.sfeditorwatch.com/index.php/Stanley_Schmidt> >> - Jonathan >> Strahan<http://www.sfeditorwatch.com/index.php/Jonathan_Strahan> >> - Gordon Van >> Gelder<http://www.sfeditorwatch.com/index.php/Gordon_Van_Gelder> >> - Sheila Williams<http://www.sfeditorwatch.com/index.php/Sheila_Williams> >> >> *Best Editor, Long Form* >> (273 Ballots) >> >> - Lou Anders <http://www.sfeditorwatch.com/index.php/Lou_Anders> >> - Ginjer Buchanan >> - David G. Hartwell >> - Beth Meacham >> - Patrick Nielsen >> Hayden<http://www.sfeditorwatch.com/index.php/Patrick_Nielsen_Hayden> >> >> *Best Professional Artist* >> (334 Ballots) >> >> - Daniel Dos Santos – Official Site <http://www.dandossantos.com/> >> - Bob Eggleton – Official Site <http://www.bobeggleton.com/> >> - Donato Giancola – Official Site <http://www.donatoart.com/> >> - John Picacio – Official >> Site<http://www.johnpicacio.com/2009/01/my-2008-published-work.html> >> - Shaun Tan – Official Site <http://www.shauntan.net/> >> >> *Best Semiprozine* >> (283 Ballots) >> >> - *Clarkesworld Magazine* <http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/> edited by >> Neil Clarke, Nick Mamatas & Sean Wallace >> - *Interzone* <http://ttapress.com/interzone/> edited by Andy Cox >> - *Locus* <http://www.locusmag.com/About/Locus.html> edited by Charles >> N. Brown, Kirsten Gong-Wong, & Liza Groen Trombi >> - *The New York Review of Science >> Fiction*<http://ebbs.english.vt.edu/olp/nyrsf/nyrsf.html>edited by Kathryn >> Cramer, Kris Dikeman, David G. Hartwell, & Kevin J. >> Maroney >> - *Weird Tales* <http://www.weirdtales.net/> edited by Ann VanderMeer >> & Stephen H. Segal - Year in >> Review<http://weirdtales.net/wordpress/2009/01/09/weird-tales-%E2%80%94-2008-year-in-review/> >> >> *Best Fanzine* >> (257 Ballots) >> >> - *Argentus* <http://efanzines.com/Argentus/index.htm> edited by >> Steven H Silver >> - *Banana Wings* edited by Claire Brialey and Mark Plummer >> - *Challenger* <http://www.challzine.net/> edited by Guy H. Lillian >> III >> - *The Drink Tank* <http://efanzines.com/DrinkTank/> edited by Chris >> Garcia >> - *Electric Velocipede* <http://www.electricvelocipede.com/> edited by >> John Klima >> - *File 770* <http://efanzines.com/File770/> edited by Mike Glyer >> >> *Best Fan Writer* >> (291 Ballots) >> >> - Chris Garcia >> - John Hertz >> - Dave Langford >> - Cheryl Morgan <http://www.cheryl-morgan.com/> >> - Steven H Silver >> >> *Best Fan Artist* >> (187 Ballots) >> >> - Alan F. Beck <http://www.alanfbeck.com/> >> - Brad W. Foster <http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Quadrant/1956/> >> - Sue Mason >> - Taral Wayne <http://taralwayne.deviantart.com/> >> - Frank Wu <http://www.frankwu.com/> >> >> *The John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer* >> (288 Ballots) >> >> - Aliette de Bodard* – Official site <http://www.aliettedebodard.com/> >> - David Anthony >> Durham<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385722524?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0385722524>* >> – Official site <http://www.davidanthonydurham.com/> >> - Felix >> Gilman<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553806777?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0553806777>– >> Official >> site <http://felixgilman.com/> >> - Tony Pi* – Official site <http://www.eyrie.org/%7Epi> >> - Gord Sellar* – Official site <http://www.gordsellar.com/> >> >> *(Second year of eligibility) >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:47 AM, delancey <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> The next meeting of R-Spec will be our annual discussion of Hugo >>> nominated short stories. >>> >>> What? Homework! >>> >>> No, I tell ye. Here are ALL the Hugo nominated short stories, with >>> links to podcasts of them being read. You can listen to them while >>> ironing or driving or laying on your back being fed grapes by your >>> slavebots. Painless! >>> >>> >>> “26 Monkeys, Also the Abyss” by Kij Johnson (Asimov’s Jul 2008) >>> http://escapepod.org/category/podcasts/hugo/ >>> >>> “Article of Faith” by Mike Resnick (Baen’s Universe Oct 2008) >>> http://escapepod.org/category/hugo-awards/ >>> >>> “Evil Robot Monkey” by Mary Robinette Kowal (The Solaris New SF, >>> Volume Two) >>> http://www.sffaudio.com/?p=3249 >>> >>> “Exhalation” by Ted Chiang (Eclipse Two) >>> http://escapepod.org/category/podcasts/hugo/ >>> >>> “From Babel’s Fall’n Glory We Fled” by Michael Swanwick (Asimov’s Feb >>> 2008) >>> http://escapepod.org/category/podcasts/hugo/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ___________ >>> >>> >>> PS: FYI, here are all the nominees: >>> >>> Best Novel >>> >>> * Anathem by Neal Stephenson (Morrow; Atlantic UK) >>> * The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman (HarperCollins; Bloomsbury UK) >>> * Little Brother by Cory Doctorow (Tor Teen; HarperVoyager UK) >>> * Saturn’s Children by Charles Stross (Ace; Orbit UK) >>> * Zoe’s Tale by John Scalzi (Tor) >>> >>> Best Novella >>> >>> * “The Erdmann Nexus” by Nancy Kress (Asimov’s Oct/Nov 2008) >>> * “The Political Prisoner” by Charles Coleman Finlay (F&SF Aug >>> 2008) >>> * “The Tear” by Ian McDonald (Galactic Empires) >>> * “True Names” by Benjamin Rosenbaum & Cory Doctorow (Fast Forward >>> 2) >>> * “Truth” by Robert Reed (Asimov’s Oct/Nov 2008) >>> >>> Best Novelette >>> >>> * “Alastair Baffle’s Emporium of Wonders” by Mike Resnick >>> (Asimov’s Jan 2008) >>> * “The Gambler” by Paolo Bacigalupi (Fast Forward 2) >>> * “Pride and Prometheus” by John Kessel (F&SF Jan 2008) >>> * “The Ray-Gun: A Love Story” by James Alan Gardner (Asimov’s Feb >>> 2008) >>> * “Shoggoths in Bloom” by Elizabeth Bear (Asimov’s Mar 2008) >>> >>> Best Short Story >>> >>> * “26 Monkeys, Also the Abyss” by Kij Johnson (Asimov’s Jul 2008) >>> * “Article of Faith” by Mike Resnick (Baen’s Universe Oct 2008) >>> * “Evil Robot Monkey” by Mary Robinette Kowal (The Solaris New SF, >>> Volume Two) >>> * “Exhalation” by Ted Chiang (Eclipse Two) >>> * “From Babel’s Fall’n Glory We Fled” by Michael Swanwick >>> (Asimov’s Feb 2008) >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dave Henn >> [email protected] >> > > > > -- > Dave Henn > [email protected] > > > > -- eric scoles ([email protected]) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R-SPEC: The Rochester Speculative Literature Association" group. 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