I been a'listenin', and I'll have listened to all available by July, but I don't know if I'll be able to read the others.
-- Jonathan Sherwood Sr. Science & Technology Press Officer University of Rochester 585-273-4726 On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Eric Scoles <[email protected]> wrote: > I listened to "Evil Robot Monkey" (and thought it was actually a really > good piece of spec fic, quite contra Jonathan), but none of the others. > > I hadn't been reading any fiction to speak of, but decided I ought to for > reasons of mental health. Alas, I made the choice about a month ago of > tackling *Infinite Jest** to that end, and from what people have told me > that's pretty much a *commitment* during which more or less no other > fiction gets read. My experience so far bears that out: at my current rate I > estimate that I might be done with it in a couple of weeks. > > -- > **IJ*, by the way, quite apart from being "arguably" SF -- as I've > characterized it in the past -- is definitely SF, and pretty solid SF at > that, at least in the trophic sense. Of course it's always shelved with > "literature" and not SF, just as *Grendel* is always and *Once and Future > King* usually shelved with literature and not fantasy. Which reminds me of > the answer somebody we'd call famous -- I think it was either Ballard or > Sterling, but might have been Chabon -- gave when asked something about SF > as a genre. "Genres are really just ways of grouping books so you can sell > them more easily." (I can recommend it highly, btw, but only if you've got > the patience for 1200 pages in highly subjective-voiced prose, about half of > which concerns the pathetic misadventures of junkies in Boston.) > > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Dave Henn <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm curious - are people listening to/reading the nominees at all? I've >> listened to all the shorts from EscapePod, but have not gone much beyond >> that, yet, myself. Yes, hypocrisy is rampant. I bow my head in shame. >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Dave Henn <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the direct links, Craig. Remember that you, too, can vote for >>> the cost of a supporting membership >>> ($55)<http://www.anticipationsf.ca/English/Membership>. >>> Please check out available versions of the other stories (novelettes, >>> novellas, etc., not all free), as listed at WorldCon's Hugos >>> Page<http://www.anticipationsf.ca/English/Hugos> >>> : >>> >>> *Best Novel* >>> (639 Ballots) >>> >>> - >>> *Anathem*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0061474096?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0061474096>by >>> Neal Stephenson (Morrow; Atlantic UK) >>> - *The Graveyard >>> Book*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060530928?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0060530928>by >>> Neil Gaiman (HarperCollins; Bloomsbury UK) >>> - *Little >>> Brother*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0765319853?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0765319853>by >>> Cory Doctorow (Tor Teen; HarperVoyager UK) — Free >>> download <http://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/> >>> - *Saturn’s >>> Children*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001QXC48Q?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001QXC48Q>by >>> Charles Stross (Ace; Orbit UK) >>> - *Zoe’s >>> Tale*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0765316986?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0765316986>by >>> John Scalzi (Tor) >>> >>> *Best Novella* >>> (337 Ballots) >>> >>> - “The Erdmann Nexus” by Nancy Kress (*Asimov’s* Oct/Nov 2008) – Read >>> Online <http://www.asimovs.com/hugos_2009/ErdmannNexus.shtml> >>> - “The Political Prisoner” by Charles Coleman Finlay (*F&SF* Aug >>> 2008) – Read Online <http://www.sfsite.com/fsf/fiction/ccf01.htm> >>> - “The Tear” by Ian McDonald ( *Galactic >>> Empires*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1582882916?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1582882916>) >>> >>> - “True Names” by Benjamin Rosenbaum & Cory Doctorow ( *Fast Forward >>> >>> 2*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159102692X?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=159102692X>) >>> — Free download <http://www.feedbooks.com/book/3511> >>> - “Truth” by Robert Reed (*Asimov’s* Oct/Nov 2008) – Read >>> Online<http://www.asimovs.com/hugos_2009/Truth.shtml> >>> >>> *Best Novelette* >>> (373 Ballots) >>> >>> - “Alastair Baffle’s Emporium of Wonders” by Mike Resnick (*Asimov’s*Jan >>> 2008) — Read >>> Online <http://www.asimovs.com/_issue_0801/PBAlistair.shtml> >>> - “The Gambler” by Paolo Bacigalupi ( *Fast Forward >>> 2*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159102692X?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=159102692X>) >>> — Read >>> Online<http://pyrsamples.blogspot.com/2008/11/fast-forward-2-paolo-bacigalupis.html> >>> - “Pride and Prometheus” by John Kessel (*F&SF* Jan 2008) – Free >>> >>> Download<http://www4.ncsu.edu/%7Etenshi/documents/Kessel-PrideAndPrometheus.pdf>, >>> also available as a two part podcast (part >>> 1<http://www4.ncsu.edu/%7Etenshi/PandPPart1.m4a>, >>> part 2 <http://www4.ncsu.edu/%7Etenshi/PandPpart22.m4a>) >>> - “The Ray-Gun: A Love Story” by James Alan Gardner (*Asimov’s* Feb >>> 2008) — Read Online <http://www.asimovs.com/nebulas09/Raygun.shtml> >>> - “Shoggoths in Bloom” by Elizabeth Bear (*Asimov’s* Mar 2008) — Read >>> Online <http://www.elizabethbear.com/shoggoths.html> >>> >>> *Best Short Story* >>> (448 Ballots) >>> >>> - “26 Monkeys, Also the Abyss” by Kij Johnson (*Asimov’s* Jul 2008) — >>> Read Online <http://www.kijjohnson.com/26_monkeys.htm> >>> - “Article of Faith” by Mike Resnick (*Baen’s Universe* Oct 2008) – Read >>> Online <http://www.baens-universe.com/articles/Article_of_Faith> >>> - “Evil Robot Monkey” by Mary Robinette Kowal ( *The Solaris Book of >>> New Science Fiction, Volume >>> Two*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1844165426?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1844165426>) >>> - Free >>> download<http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/evil-robot-monkey/> >>> - “Exhalation” by Ted Chiang ( *Eclipse >>> Two*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1597801364?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1597801364>) >>> - Free download <http://www.nightshadebooks.com/downloads> >>> - “From Babel’s Fall’n Glory We Fled” by Michael Swanwick (*Asimov’s*Feb >>> 2008) – Read >>> Online <http://www.asimovs.com/hugos_2009/Babels.shtml> >>> >>> *Best Related Book* >>> (263 Ballots) >>> >>> - *Rhetorics of >>> Fantasy*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0819568686?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0819568686>by >>> Farah Mendlesohn (Wesleyan University Press) – Read >>> an extract online <http://www.farahsf.com/extract.htm> >>> - *Spectrum 15: The Best in Contemporary Fantastic >>> Art*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1599290278?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1599290278>by >>> Cathy & Arnie Fenner, eds. (Underwood Books) >>> - *The Vorkosigan Companion: The Universe of Lois McMaster >>> Bujold*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1416556036?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1416556036>by >>> Lillian Stewart Carl & John Helfers, eds. (Baen) >>> - *What It Is We Do When We Read Science >>> Fiction*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1870824547?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1870824547>by >>> Paul Kincaid (Beccon Publications) - /Read >>> online <http://www.beccon.org/> >>> - *Your Hate Mail Will be Graded: A Decade of Whatever, >>> 1998-2008*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596062118?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1596062118>by >>> John Scalzi (Subterranean Press) >>> >>> *Best Graphic Story* >>> (212 Ballots) >>> >>> - *The Dresden Files: Welcome to the >>> Jungle*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345507460?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0345507460>Written >>> by Jim Butcher, art by Ardian Syaf (Del Rey/Dabel Brothers >>> Publishing) >>> - *Girl Genius, Volume 8: Agatha Heterodyne and the Chapel of >>> Bones*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1890856479?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1890856479>Written >>> by Kaja & Phil Foglio, art by Phil Foglio, colors by Cheyenne Wright >>> (Airship Entertainment) – Official Site<http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/> >>> - *Fables: War and >>> Pieces*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401219136?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1401219136>Written >>> by Bill Willingham, pencilled by Mark Buckingham, art by Steve >>> Leialoha and Andrew Pepoy, color by Lee Loughridge, letters by Todd Klein >>> (DC/Vertigo Comics) >>> - *Schlock Mercenary: The Body >>> Politic*<http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20070520.html>Story and art by >>> Howard Tayler (The Tayler Corporation) — Free >>> download <http://www.schlockmercenary.com/TBPHugo.pdf> >>> - *Serenity: Better >>> Days*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1595821627?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1595821627>Written >>> by Joss Whedon & Brett Matthews, art by Will Conrad, color by >>> Michelle Madsen, cover by Jo Chen (Dark Horse Comics) >>> - *Y: The Last Man, Volume 10: Whys and >>> Wherefores*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/140121813X?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=140121813X>Written/created >>> by Brian K. Vaughan, pencilled/created by Pia Guerra, inked >>> by Jose Marzan, Jr. (DC/Vertigo Comics) >>> >>> *Best Dramatic Presentation, Long Form* >>> (436 Ballots) >>> >>> - *The Dark >>> Knight*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GZ6QC4?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001GZ6QC4>Christopher >>> Nolan & David S. Goyer, story; Jonathan Nolan and Christopher >>> Nolan, screenplay; based on characters created by Bob Kane; Christopher >>> Nolan, director (Warner Brothers) >>> - *Hellboy II: The Golden >>> Army*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001F7MSFM?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001F7MSFM>Guillermo >>> del Toro & Mike Mignola, story; Guillermo del Toro, screenplay; >>> based on the comic by Mike Mignola; Guillermo del Toro, director (Dark >>> Horse, Universal) >>> - *Iron >>> Man*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001C08RHA?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001C08RHA>Mark >>> Fergus & Hawk Ostby and Art Marcum & Matt Holloway, screenplay; based >>> on characters created by Stan Lee & Don Heck & Larry Lieber & Jack Kirby; >>> Jon Favreau, director (Paramount, Marvel Studios) >>> - >>> *METAtropolis*<http://www.audible.com/adbl/site/products/ProductDetail.jsp?BV_SessionID=0318003324.1237565959&BV_EngineID=ccceadegkiegmlkcefecekjdffidffj.0&productID=BK_ADBL_000570>by >>> John Scalzi, ed. Written by: Elizabeth Bear, Jay Lake, Tobias Buckell, >>> John Scalzi and Karl Schroeder (Audible Inc) — Free >>> download<http://www.audible.com/adbl/store/welcome.jsp?source_code=TWTV0015WS033009&entryRedirect=/site/products/ProductDetail.jsp&entryParams=%5EproductID%7EFR_ADBL_000570> >>> - >>> *WALL-E*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013FSL3E?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0013FSL3E>Andrew >>> Stanton & Pete Docter, story; Andrew Stanton & Jim Reardon, >>> screenplay; Andrew Stanton, director (Pixar/Walt Disney) >>> >>> *Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form* >>> (336 Ballots) >>> >>> - “The Constant” ( >>> *Lost*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018CWEYY?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0018CWEYY>) >>> Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindelof, writers; Jack Bender, director (Bad Robot, >>> ABC studios) >>> - *Doctor Horrible’s Sing-Along >>> Blog*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001M5UDGS?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001M5UDGS>Joss >>> Whedon, & Zack Whedon, & Jed Whedon & Maurissa Tancharoen , writers; >>> Joss Whedon, director (Mutant Enemy) >>> - “Revelations” ( *Battlestar >>> Galactica*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001HUWQEA?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001HUWQEA>) >>> Bradley Thompson & David Weddle, writers; Michael Rymer, director (NBC >>> Universal) >>> - “Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead” ( *Doctor >>> Who*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001DJ7PQ4?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001DJ7PQ4>) >>> Steven Moffat, writer; Euros Lyn, director (BBC Wales) >>> - “Turn Left” ( *Doctor >>> Who*<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001DJ7PQ4?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001DJ7PQ4>) >>> Russell T. Davies, writer; Graeme Harper, director (BBC Wales) >>> >>> *Best Editor, Short Form* >>> (377 Ballots) >>> >>> - Ellen Datlow <http://www.sfeditorwatch.com/index.php/Ellen_Datlow> >>> - Stanley Schmidt<http://www.sfeditorwatch.com/index.php/Stanley_Schmidt> >>> - Jonathan >>> Strahan<http://www.sfeditorwatch.com/index.php/Jonathan_Strahan> >>> - Gordon Van >>> Gelder<http://www.sfeditorwatch.com/index.php/Gordon_Van_Gelder> >>> - Sheila Williams<http://www.sfeditorwatch.com/index.php/Sheila_Williams> >>> >>> *Best Editor, Long Form* >>> (273 Ballots) >>> >>> - Lou Anders <http://www.sfeditorwatch.com/index.php/Lou_Anders> >>> - Ginjer Buchanan >>> - David G. Hartwell >>> - Beth Meacham >>> - Patrick Nielsen >>> Hayden<http://www.sfeditorwatch.com/index.php/Patrick_Nielsen_Hayden> >>> >>> *Best Professional Artist* >>> (334 Ballots) >>> >>> - Daniel Dos Santos – Official Site <http://www.dandossantos.com/> >>> - Bob Eggleton – Official Site <http://www.bobeggleton.com/> >>> - Donato Giancola – Official Site <http://www.donatoart.com/> >>> - John Picacio – Official >>> Site<http://www.johnpicacio.com/2009/01/my-2008-published-work.html> >>> - Shaun Tan – Official Site <http://www.shauntan.net/> >>> >>> *Best Semiprozine* >>> (283 Ballots) >>> >>> - *Clarkesworld Magazine* <http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/> edited >>> by Neil Clarke, Nick Mamatas & Sean Wallace >>> - *Interzone* <http://ttapress.com/interzone/> edited by Andy Cox >>> - *Locus* <http://www.locusmag.com/About/Locus.html> edited by >>> Charles N. Brown, Kirsten Gong-Wong, & Liza Groen Trombi >>> - *The New York Review of Science >>> Fiction*<http://ebbs.english.vt.edu/olp/nyrsf/nyrsf.html>edited by Kathryn >>> Cramer, Kris Dikeman, David G. Hartwell, & Kevin J. >>> Maroney >>> - *Weird Tales* <http://www.weirdtales.net/> edited by Ann VanderMeer >>> & Stephen H. Segal - Year in >>> Review<http://weirdtales.net/wordpress/2009/01/09/weird-tales-%E2%80%94-2008-year-in-review/> >>> >>> *Best Fanzine* >>> (257 Ballots) >>> >>> - *Argentus* <http://efanzines.com/Argentus/index.htm> edited by >>> Steven H Silver >>> - *Banana Wings* edited by Claire Brialey and Mark Plummer >>> - *Challenger* <http://www.challzine.net/> edited by Guy H. Lillian >>> III >>> - *The Drink Tank* <http://efanzines.com/DrinkTank/> edited by Chris >>> Garcia >>> - *Electric Velocipede* <http://www.electricvelocipede.com/> edited >>> by John Klima >>> - *File 770* <http://efanzines.com/File770/> edited by Mike Glyer >>> >>> *Best Fan Writer* >>> (291 Ballots) >>> >>> - Chris Garcia >>> - John Hertz >>> - Dave Langford >>> - Cheryl Morgan <http://www.cheryl-morgan.com/> >>> - Steven H Silver >>> >>> *Best Fan Artist* >>> (187 Ballots) >>> >>> - Alan F. Beck <http://www.alanfbeck.com/> >>> - Brad W. Foster <http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Quadrant/1956/> >>> - Sue Mason >>> - Taral Wayne <http://taralwayne.deviantart.com/> >>> - Frank Wu <http://www.frankwu.com/> >>> >>> *The John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer* >>> (288 Ballots) >>> >>> - Aliette de Bodard* – Official site<http://www.aliettedebodard.com/> >>> - David Anthony >>> Durham<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385722524?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0385722524>* >>> – Official site <http://www.davidanthonydurham.com/> >>> - Felix >>> Gilman<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553806777?ie=UTF8&tag=httpwwwantici-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0553806777>– >>> Official >>> site <http://felixgilman.com/> >>> - Tony Pi* – Official site <http://www.eyrie.org/%7Epi> >>> - Gord Sellar* – Official site <http://www.gordsellar.com/> >>> >>> *(Second year of eligibility) >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:47 AM, delancey <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> The next meeting of R-Spec will be our annual discussion of Hugo >>>> nominated short stories. >>>> >>>> What? Homework! >>>> >>>> No, I tell ye. Here are ALL the Hugo nominated short stories, with >>>> links to podcasts of them being read. You can listen to them while >>>> ironing or driving or laying on your back being fed grapes by your >>>> slavebots. Painless! >>>> >>>> >>>> “26 Monkeys, Also the Abyss” by Kij Johnson (Asimov’s Jul 2008) >>>> http://escapepod.org/category/podcasts/hugo/ >>>> >>>> “Article of Faith” by Mike Resnick (Baen’s Universe Oct 2008) >>>> http://escapepod.org/category/hugo-awards/ >>>> >>>> “Evil Robot Monkey” by Mary Robinette Kowal (The Solaris New SF, >>>> Volume Two) >>>> http://www.sffaudio.com/?p=3249 >>>> >>>> “Exhalation” by Ted Chiang (Eclipse Two) >>>> http://escapepod.org/category/podcasts/hugo/ >>>> >>>> “From Babel’s Fall’n Glory We Fled” by Michael Swanwick (Asimov’s Feb >>>> 2008) >>>> http://escapepod.org/category/podcasts/hugo/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___________ >>>> >>>> >>>> PS: FYI, here are all the nominees: >>>> >>>> Best Novel >>>> >>>> * Anathem by Neal Stephenson (Morrow; Atlantic UK) >>>> * The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman (HarperCollins; Bloomsbury UK) >>>> * Little Brother by Cory Doctorow (Tor Teen; HarperVoyager UK) >>>> * Saturn’s Children by Charles Stross (Ace; Orbit UK) >>>> * Zoe’s Tale by John Scalzi (Tor) >>>> >>>> Best Novella >>>> >>>> * “The Erdmann Nexus” by Nancy Kress (Asimov’s Oct/Nov 2008) >>>> * “The Political Prisoner” by Charles Coleman Finlay (F&SF Aug >>>> 2008) >>>> * “The Tear” by Ian McDonald (Galactic Empires) >>>> * “True Names” by Benjamin Rosenbaum & Cory Doctorow (Fast Forward >>>> 2) >>>> * “Truth” by Robert Reed (Asimov’s Oct/Nov 2008) >>>> >>>> Best Novelette >>>> >>>> * “Alastair Baffle’s Emporium of Wonders” by Mike Resnick >>>> (Asimov’s Jan 2008) >>>> * “The Gambler” by Paolo Bacigalupi (Fast Forward 2) >>>> * “Pride and Prometheus” by John Kessel (F&SF Jan 2008) >>>> * “The Ray-Gun: A Love Story” by James Alan Gardner (Asimov’s Feb >>>> 2008) >>>> * “Shoggoths in Bloom” by Elizabeth Bear (Asimov’s Mar 2008) >>>> >>>> Best Short Story >>>> >>>> * “26 Monkeys, Also the Abyss” by Kij Johnson (Asimov’s Jul 2008) >>>> * “Article of Faith” by Mike Resnick (Baen’s Universe Oct 2008) >>>> * “Evil Robot Monkey” by Mary Robinette Kowal (The Solaris New SF, >>>> Volume Two) >>>> * “Exhalation” by Ted Chiang (Eclipse Two) >>>> * “From Babel’s Fall’n Glory We Fled” by Michael Swanwick >>>> (Asimov’s Feb 2008) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dave Henn >>> [email protected] >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Dave Henn >> [email protected] >> >> >> > > > -- > eric scoles ([email protected]) > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R-SPEC: The Rochester Speculative Literature Association" group. 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