Its a really basic design that passes is not what most people really.
As for what we do want
the reply question is but its nearly impossible to answer. The reply
question would be, how
do I make a site that is usable and beautiful?

The problem is design instinct. Some people have it, some don't. Many
developers don't, myself
included, and they want to learn to *emulate* it. As I don't think its
possible to learn instinct.
That said, I imagine their are many good designers out there who don't
have classical design
instinct, but learned and trained off others work. Ultimately there is
a scale of design ability
and we all for along it somewhere.

Its difficult to nominate a specific design problem worth work-
shopping. If you can find a specific
problem you want to solve then its likely technical and hence just
needs technical instruction,
different from design.

I think those in need of help would like to just observe a good
designer doin their thang, and we
can extract the techniques and patterns and add them to our pallete of
learned design tips. Then
later apply with variation to our own problems. Like a makeover in
QEFTSG, we want to watch
rather than dobbing ourselves in for the makeover.

Its also not to say we don't know when we see something we like, but I
think most of us would like to
stop drawing so heavily on existing design and make sites which are
more individual and appropriate
for the problem being solved by the site we are making.

The argument against all this is, let designers design and coders
code. But the stubborn polymath
(or desire to be one) in most geeks refuses to give up. Plus tips are
useful for low budget projects
or solo developers not looking to spend on designers.

And no I won't be submitting my site for a makeover because I am a
coward.

Adam

On Feb 3, 11:49 pm, Brodaigh <broda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To quote someone from the meta-discussion, "I would be interested in seeing
> a "design eye for the developer guy" type of session."
>
> I'm just wondering.. I'm interested in- what are the main design problems
> non-designy people are experiencing?
>
> I myself am a designy-type, which gives me my own set of problems. One of
> which is, I'm trying really hard to improve, everything, all the time! Plus
> a few little quirky,* verging on a mental disorder *things.
>
> Like, if CSS totally gripes you?? I want to know why. This is your
> opportunity to get it off your chest and go vent! Sort of a bitch-session if
> you will.
> Open the flood gates!
>
> What's stopping you from making a really basic design that also passes' for
> your app?
>
> -Brodaigh
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