Sorry, that first paragraph should read: ---------------------------- A really basic design that passes is not what most people really want. As for what we do want, the reply question would be, how do I make a site that is usable and beautiful?
On Feb 4, 2:42 pm, Adam Meehan <adam.mee...@gmail.com> wrote: > Its a really basic design that passes is not what most people really. > As for what we do want > the reply question is but its nearly impossible to answer. The reply > question would be, how > do I make a site that is usable and beautiful? > > The problem is design instinct. Some people have it, some don't. Many > developers don't, myself > included, and they want to learn to *emulate* it. As I don't think its > possible to learn instinct. > That said, I imagine their are many good designers out there who don't > have classical design > instinct, but learned and trained off others work. Ultimately there is > a scale of design ability > and we all for along it somewhere. > > Its difficult to nominate a specific design problem worth work- > shopping. If you can find a specific > problem you want to solve then its likely technical and hence just > needs technical instruction, > different from design. > > I think those in need of help would like to just observe a good > designer doin their thang, and we > can extract the techniques and patterns and add them to our pallete of > learned design tips. Then > later apply with variation to our own problems. Like a makeover in > QEFTSG, we want to watch > rather than dobbing ourselves in for the makeover. > > Its also not to say we don't know when we see something we like, but I > think most of us would like to > stop drawing so heavily on existing design and make sites which are > more individual and appropriate > for the problem being solved by the site we are making. > > The argument against all this is, let designers design and coders > code. But the stubborn polymath > (or desire to be one) in most geeks refuses to give up. Plus tips are > useful for low budget projects > or solo developers not looking to spend on designers. > > And no I won't be submitting my site for a makeover because I am a > coward. > > Adam > > On Feb 3, 11:49 pm, Brodaigh <broda...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > To quote someone from the meta-discussion, "I would be interested in seeing > > a "design eye for the developer guy" type of session." > > > I'm just wondering.. I'm interested in- what are the main design problems > > non-designy people are experiencing? > > > I myself am a designy-type, which gives me my own set of problems. One of > > which is, I'm trying really hard to improve, everything, all the time! Plus > > a few little quirky,* verging on a mental disorder *things. > > > Like, if CSS totally gripes you?? I want to know why. This is your > > opportunity to get it off your chest and go vent! Sort of a bitch-session if > > you will. > > Open the flood gates! > > > What's stopping you from making a really basic design that also passes' for > > your app? > > > -Brodaigh > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---