Hi Korny,

Adding to your list of libraries, I came across http://www.javascriptmvc.com 
yesterday.

– Ivan

On 26/02/2011, at 6:20 PM, Korny Sietsma wrote:

> I saw this - it ties in with a lot of thinking I've had lately.
> 
> I have a talk half planned on the future of web development - my personal 
> feeling is that with javascript now on in the vast majority of browsers, and 
> with Google at least allowing for SEO on ajax hash-bang URLs, the days of 
> generating html on the server are rapidly running out.
> 
> My favourite app architecture at the moment:
> - MongoDB for persistence, serving up JSON (well, BSON)
> - Sinatra for the Domain / Model layer, mostly sending JSON back to the 
> browser (ok, it might have a handful of html pages, but they're rare)
> - A fat client in Javascript / JQuery on the client - possibly with MVC if 
> the app is complex enough, possibly using a library (see below) - though 
> rolling your own is also quite viable.
> - Handlebars.js for client-side templating, to actually build the html.  (and 
> it means if you must build html server-side, you can share your mustache 
> templates on both layers)
> 
> And browser state managed through the dreaded # anchors.  Html5 and 
> browser.pushstate might make them redundant one day, but for now they just 
> work.
> 
> There are many big wins if you build apps this way - not least, real 
> separation of concerns, and great testability.
> 
> I'd go further into this, but I have to go... might add some more later.
> Some libraries that are looking cool in this area:
> - Sammy.js
> - Backbone.js
> - Sproutcore (I believe - haven't looked at it myself, I prefer lower-level 
> libraries rather than "do everything")
> 
> You may say I'm a dreamer... but I'm not the only one.
> 
> - Korny
> 
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 2:02 PM, jamesl <ladd.ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought the readers here would appreciate this article:
> 
> http://peter.michaux.ca/articles/mvc-architecture-for-javascript-applications
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