Ok - then I can't use prototype. It's out of my possibilities to check
with every framework, as I don't have access to all possible
javascript-frameworks a MyFaces user could combine with his
MyFaces-webapps.

In this case, I'll have to drop prototype and replace everything with dojo.
Sigh! lots of work to do ;)

However, I still think that something that makes it a little less
convenient (prefixes are just a few keyboard-hits more) but a lot more
stable to use prototype would be well worth being implemented!

regards,

Martin

On 1/3/06, Ryan Gahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Went to the official Ajile website, downloaded the thing and took a
> look. All I can say is, meh. It's not entirely useful, really. First of
> all the darn thing is written all on a single line (no carriage
> returns), which I'm assuming was some attempt at saving a few bytes
> (quite annoying). Secondly, it doesn't really do anything helpful (maybe
> it has some good points). In an attempt at simulating namespaces, the
> author has had to fill an array with every system type he could find
> (maybe all of them, maybe he missed a few), which gets checked any time
> you try to create or import a namespace, so you don't collide with any
> system defined objects (who knows how many browser-specific proprietary
> ones were missed). And then all it's really doing in the end is creating
> shell objects to act like a dot-naming convention for your actual
> objects. So it's a really long way around the problem that basically is
> (once again) simply renaming functions, only in this case is actually
> adding overhead by having to create shell objects (memory usage) and
> iterate through the massive array of system types. And it in no way
> addresses our REAL problem (as prototype.js users), of the built in
> javascript object prototypes being changed.
>
> So, Martin, once again I have to say if you are using any framework the
> messes with prototypes, you just have to suck it up and watch out for
> collisions.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan
> Gahl
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:51 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Rails-spinoffs] Status of Prototype
>
> Brilliant, I never heard of that before, thanks Michael. I'm definitely
> going to take a look at AJILE :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Michael Peters
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Rails-spinoffs] Status of Prototype
>
>
>
> Martin Marinschek wrote:
> > Ok,
> >
> > if you guys agree, then I would really think that we should try to get
> > this into prototype. Why should each and every user necessarily do
> > this if it could fixed by the framework itself?
>
> I wasn't saying that the frameword should do it. I was just complaining
> about
> the lack of namespaces in Javascript. I think that adding a 'protoType_'
> extension to every method call and class name would be tedious and ugly
> (and
> would give me PHP nightmares).
>
> Maybe something like Ajile? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJILE
>
> --
> Michael Peters
> Developer
> Plus Three, LP
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