I had to redo an entire corporate website that was done in coldfusion... maybe they have changed things, but it was all markup based code, with server "tags" mixed in with client tags and client script, all one file.

I guess I'm just jaded by being witness to countless poor implementations of these languages.




On 5/26/06, Daniel Elmore < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> languages that mix server code, markup, and client code in one
> file (classic ASP, Coldfusion, PHP, RoR, etc).

You obviously know nothing about ColdFusion.

Sorry, had to defend my language.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ryan Gahl
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Rails-spinoffs] migration to rails

:-)

I just don't see RoR being around for the long haul (10 years+), and never
understood the draw to languages that mix server code, markup, and client
code in one file (classic ASP, Coldfusion, PHP, RoR, etc). I believe in code
separation, precompilation of class libraries where possible, integrated
development environments, full feature debugging, etc...

And was simply suggesting to the OP that if he's gonig to spend time and
effort learning a new language, that it be one which can be used for the web
and more. Sorry, I really am, clearly you are all great at your jobs and
good developers, I just don't personally think scripting should be used for
complete development of applications. Scripting has it's place.

And sorry, RoR is a framework.... for scripting :-)
On 5/26/06, Gregory Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
No you… neener neener. (sorry, had to)

Greg


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ryan Gahl
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:40 AM

To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Rails-spinoffs] migration to rails

Oh jeez... cool your collective jets.
On 5/26/06, Nicholas Schlueter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This is not a helpful statement and takes away from the usefulness of
this list.This is not a war worth fighting.Everyone has their
preference.Zealots are stupid and irrational.Please take this
discussion to another list.

Thanks,
Nicholas

On 5/26/06, Ryan Gahl < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> Why not migrate to .NET or JSP?
>
> Don't waste time learning yet another spaghetti scripting language, learn
a
> viable application development platform that businesses are looking for
> talent in. All the tools are now FREE :-), including for .NET.
>
> And yes, they have MANY facilities for reporting. RoR is a scripting
> language, seriously think about a real application development language.
>
>
>
> On 5/26/06, Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi, I'm a PHP developer and I'm think about migration to rails...
> > my big problem is about printing web Reports, well I could not found a
> > good thing to help me with this...
> >
> > Does Ror or some other ruby project have some thing to help about
> > make/print database reports?
> >
> > tks
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