Hey your crown looks like the one I am supposed to get.  Kind of like the
parable with the workers in the vineyard they all got the same reward for
differing levels of work.  

It amazes me how easy it is to get off track.  When we start putting our
faith in what "WE" do and not in what Christ "DID" all kinds of fleshly
junk comes up.  Not to say that we are not to do works but in the right
way and for the right reasons. 

Mark Jones



On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:43:56 +1100 Victor Zalakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> I think there's a crown with my name on it!
>
http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?passage=2+tim+4%3A8&_version=yes
> 
> Victor.
> 
> At 07:13 PM 10/11/2003 -0500, Commander Pier wrote:
> >We seem to be in agreement.  Each of the cases you cited the people 
> were
> >martyred, or could have became martyrs in the ordinary course of 
> living.  If
> >God told you to go to Mecca and proclaim the gospel, I am sure he 
> would take
> >care of you.  If I (the key is "I") decide to go to Mecca and get 
> beheaded,
> >I am not sure I'd get that martyrs crown.  By the way, you bible 
> scholars
> >out there, is there such a thing?
> >
> >KLP
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Ace Numer- Uno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Commander Pier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: "rnet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:48 PM
> >Subject: Re: [RR] MARTYRDOM- A Crown in heaven for Martyrs?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Commander Pier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > In short, I agree with Josh.  Depends on one's motive -- are 
> your after
> > > > that
> > > > crown, or does the crown seek you?  That is, in the course of 
> living
> > > > (implies being in God's will), and carrying out your ministry, 
> you are
> > > > martyred, you get the crown.
> > >
> > > Interesting-
> > >
> > > Daniel was thrown into the Lions den rather than back down.
> > > He seemes to have thought it through and showed some spine..
> > >
> > >  The former-achient resident's of Baghdad,Iraq
> > > put Shadrack,Me-shack and Abendigo in a firey furnace.. and the 
> FORTH
> > > man appeared! *They walked out...
> > >
> > > *Trusting God in a tight spot seems worthy of respect..
> > > and say your fleshly health/survival  is of little concern to 
> you.
> > >
> > > Would not you prefer to put your life totaly in Gods hands?
> > >
> > > *It seemes to me that much of Iraq is a tough place to proclaim
> > > Jesus Christ Lord.. *yet he is!
> > >
> > >
> > > *What if the fear of being shot... *inhibits your testimony?
> > >
> > > The young heroic belever in Colembine High.. was asked if she
> > > trusted God and beleved..  YES!   *She was shot, and I have 
> heard
> > > preaching that she went right into the arms of Jesus!
> > >
> > > It's said that God watches out for the foolish<G>
> > >
> > > I'll agree that standing out on the traffic turnaround in Saddam 
> City
> > > with a Big Cross and raised Bible is pushing it..  But Bro.MPJ 
> is
> > > on the field.. and so's his family.
> > >
> > > *A while back..  I posted that when they tore down the big 
> statue
> > > of Saddam a man next to a US media reporter yelled:
> > >
> > > "Praise be to the one true God! There is but one true God!"
> > >
> > > -=A=-
> > >
> > > =====
> > > *High MORALE is the Index of effective Leadership.
> > > --------------********+********--------------------
> > > Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower,
> > > of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself,
> > > and both in the .....cause!
> > >
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