Reply from the Netherlands, Europe:
Don't bother to risk your life only for a crown; we have a queen, and she
only
wears it once a year. And at a certain moment in heaven we wil all give our
crowns back to Jesus.
(Revelations) So if you risk your life for Jesus in Irak, do it to save
people for Christ.And you can read Revelations about it  by using the
concordance to find the verses with the word 'crown'.
If you go to Israel, you'd better first learn te read Hebrew, because Jews
know bettter
how to read the Bible in the original language, and may ask you difficult
questions; so be
prepared! (for Jesus). After the holocaust in Europe, Jews in Israel are
very sensitive of blunt evangization, and missionaries. They don't put you
in prison for it, but send you on the first flight home. So be sensitive if
you want to talk with them. Better read some jewish history first. And meet
some jews and arabs in your own country to learn about their culture
Maybe you better start at home before you try it somewhere else, just as the
disciples of Jesus started in Jerusalem, before they went abroad.

Greetings,
 Richard Vos, Rotterdam.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ace Numer- Uno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:23 PM
Subject: [RR] MARTYRDOM- A Crown in heaven for Martyrs?


>
> *Today...  I watched Pastor John Hagee of San Antonio,Texas on TBN
> as I got my shoes on for work..  I also watched the NBC news Today
> show and began a conversation with GMA#3911...
>
> (*excuse me as i *try, to be as honest as i can about what i said)
>
> I said outloud-
>
> "Boy Josh.. If I get fired and find I have no prospects... I
> should take my retirement saveings and tour Isreal and Iraq
> with a big cross like Arthur Blessit and finish up as a street
> preacher in the suni tri-angle of Baghdad!  *I wonder how long
> it would take me to win a martyrs crown?"
>
>
> Here's the "jest of it"...
>
> Pastor Hagee preaches that we are the "terminal generation" and
> will live to see Rapture.  (He is preaching a 4 part sermon series
> on the Rapture ect)  He also indicated that in Heaven.. *Those that
> do God's work on earth will be seen to be wearing crowns of jewells..
>
> *among those crowns is the Martyrs crown...
>
> Pastor Hagee aluded that there will be a "pecking order" in heaven
> and those that have worked for Jesus will be seated ahead of pesky
> skin'o the teeth Christians with rusty halo's and second hand wings
> full of patches!<G>
>
> Josh replied:
>
> "Bogus logic man..  No one who contrives to win a crown in glory..
> will be rewarded the crown.  Don't do it..  It would be suicide."
>
> *I pressed----
>
> "*So..  Iraqi's are so lost that a man of God must *Fear proclaiming
> the gospel of Christ?"
>
> Josh replied:
>
> "Those people have made up their minds and will kill you...it's stupid.
> Don't do it dad..  My kids someday will need a Grandpa to build them a
> go-cart<G>"
>
>
> Thoughts?
> -=A=-
>
>
> =====
> *High MORALE is the Index of effective Leadership.
> --------------********+********--------------------
> Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower,
> of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself,
> and both in the .....cause!
>
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