Maa Rang Lapau nan Basamo, Ado nan panah mandanga istilah "Kuciang Aia?" Apo iko istilah baru nan diadaptasi dari istilah Melayu, atau Indobnesia, "Kucing Air?". Sabab,dahulu MakNgah alunpanah mandanganyo.
Istilah ko ambo dapek dari Carito Ajo Duta tatangan "Urang Aaak ilang di Amerika" bulan nan lalu. Di lua Lapau ambo lai manaruihkan email jo bini Urang Awak nan ilang tu. Iko emailnyo sabulan kamudian. Sabagian panjang untaian emailnyo MakNgah kuduang untuak dibaritokan ka Lapau.. Wakatu mulo-mulo alah badatak hati ambo ado sesuatu nan indak sandereh dalam carito ko dengan kuliakik saurang awak nan "banyak aka". Kioonyo iyo, agak barek caritonyo. .. -- MakNgah Sjamsir Sjarif ________________________________ From: "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> To: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2012 11:41 AM Subject: Re: Lost and Found, a month later Feel free to forward any parts you want to the list. Anyone knows how to deal with the office of Agama, I would appreciate any tips or comments, let me know if you get responses. Otherwise, once again, thanks to all. Lori Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ From: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 10:36:42 -0700 (PDT) To: laca...@gmail.com<laca...@gmail.com> ReplyTo: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lost and Found, a month later Oh Heavy, I suspected it that something i was really strange. Since I cannot find any answer to your question do not want to get involve in a famuily problem, may I forward part of our later email to "Rantaunet? Probably we'll get some interesting comments in culture and personality perspective . -- Sjamsir ________________________________ From: "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> To: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2012 8:08 AM Subject: Re: Lost and Found, a month later Sjamsir, Thank you for asking. Sorry to say the whole situation is unbelievable. No he's not back in New Jersey. This is what I've found out with the help of a friend in Indonesia. My "husband" has a wife of over 10 years in indonesia and a young daughter with her. Making his visa application false and perjured and subjecting him to punishment. My friend brought a copy of my marriage book to the office of Agama and found my book is a fraud and so was my marriage. All an act supposedly, but it got by US Immigration. So although I am not married in Indonesia, USA accepts me as married. A problem I need to correct, but Agama office will not give a letter stating fraud unless the authorities request it. I am working on trying to find who that is. My friend visited my "husband" I have photo of him with his wife and child, photo of his home and a recording of a conversation where he describes how he got home. In indonesian so I don't understand much but the gist is: he and his whole family used me to get anything I could send from america and of course my money. It was his family who sent him money (from what I sent him) to get home. He came here to see america and get the visa and benefits of being my spouse here and school. But he missed his family and wanted to leave. He spent weeks telling me I killed him by forcing him to leave our home by our argument which is not true but he trieS and demanding money from me. As I refused to send money, he now wants to divorce. He believes the visa he has now will allow him entry to USA whenever he wants for 2 years and he doesn't need the green card that he left without. So, right now I am working on getting proof of his fraud to prevent him from ever coming here again, a case to put judgment against him for money I sent him, and terminating the "marriage". Not easy as getting things done in indonesia is difficult at best. I also am trying to find a way to point out to our fine government how they failed as well. Failing to find a 10 year marriage during months of background checks, holding a fraud marriage book in their hands and not knowing it, how a "missing person" gets on an international flight undetected,are all pretty big mistakes they made. It is all just crazy. Any tips you can give for getting things done in indonesia would be appreciated. Anyway, I appreciate your asking. I hope all is well and appreciate how everyone tried to help me before. Now I am trying to resolve the issues and move on with life. Sincerely, Lori. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ From: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 04:48:49 -0700 (PDT) To: Hambo Ciek<hamboc...@yahoo.com>; laca...@gmail.com<laca...@gmail.com> ReplyTo: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lost and Found, a month later Hi Lori, After reporting the lost of your husband last month and you found him, I'm wondering the next episode. After he back to his mom in Padang, with the reason that dad was sick, and hopefully daddy is back to the good health, now what? Curiously did he come back to you in New Jersey? -- Sjamsir ________________________________ From: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> To: "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> Cc: Sjamsir Sjarif <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Lost and Found You're welcome, Sjamsir ________________________________ From: "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> To: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 7:14 PM Subject: Re: Lost and Found I agree and thank you for everything. Kindest regards, Lori Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ From: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 19:13:04 -0700 (PDT) To: laca...@gmail.com<laca...@gmail.com> ReplyTo: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Cc: Sjamsir Sjarif<hamboc...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lost and Found And .. after the whole week I followed this case, I think I had enough. The initial purpose was to help you in finding your lost husband. Since you have found and "reunited" in communication with him, the subject of "Lost and Found" in our email exchange should be ended. The rest of it will be yours; I do not want to get involve in anyone internal family problem. I'm glad you are safe physically, with a deep sympathy with your daughter. Comfort her. Good luck. Best Wishes, -- Sjamsir Sjarif Sanra Cruz, California April 8, 2012 ________________________________ From: "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> To: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Lost and Found I do remember that ad. Rolaids. After this week I need that and a few strong drinks. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ From: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:48:40 -0700 (PDT) To: laca...@gmail.com<laca...@gmail.com> ReplyTo: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lost and Found Oh what a relieve. By the way, remember the ad, "how do you spell relieve?".. :) ________________________________ From: "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> To: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 6:41 PM Subject: Re: Lost and Found No longer late thank goodness. He actually just texted me he is at hospital in padang with parents. he said I told him to leave (not actually true) so he left. Waiting more. The story gets more and more interesting. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ From: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:37:29 -0700 (PDT) To: laca...@gmail.com<laca...@gmail.com> ReplyTo: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Cc: Sjamsir Sjarif<hamboc...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lost and Found If that's the kind of behavior described and labeled for him by his friend to you, it's really hard and impossible to take. After he stabbed and squirted you and then vanished, you should consider to purify yourself. If your late period bothering you until tonight you should see your physician first thing when the sun comes up tomorrow. morning. ________________________________ From: "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> To: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 11:41 AM Subject: Re: Lost and Found Describes him precisely I guess. Wonder who got stabbed in the back besides me. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ From: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:56:13 -0700 (PDT) To: Lori Caponigro<laca...@gmail.com> ReplyTo: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Cc: Sjamsir Sjarif<hamboc...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lost and Found Oh, no wonder I didn't know that idiom of "kuciang aia" in standard Minangkabau language. It seems to be a new terminology, slang invented or presented in new generation media face book, probably by recent Highschool graduates. Even someone pseudo name his facebook name as kuciang aia. I'm not a member of face book. Here's what I found as one explains it: http://septiaone.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/kucing-air-apakah-itu/ -- Sjamsir ________________________________ From: Lori Caponigro <laca...@gmail.com> To: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 9:03 AM Subject: Re: Lost and Found Explained to me in text this way: His name hwa cat means water cat, kucing air. Meaning someone cheat and liar It is words of the text. I copy and paste here. On Sunday, April 8, 2012, Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Oh, I never hear of it in it original expression. Do you remember the sound > of it in Minangkabau as they explained it to you? > > ________________________________ > From: "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> > To: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 8:45 AM > Subject: Re: Lost and Found > > Term was explained to me as being Minangkabau term. No news. No call from him. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ________________________________ > From: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:42:38 -0700 (PDT) > To: laca...@gmail.com<laca...@gmail.com> > ReplyTo: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > Cc: Sjamsir Sjarif<hamboc...@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Lost and Found > Is it an English idiom or someone described it to you taken from other > language? > Is there any development? Thanks. > Sjamsir > ________________________________ > From: "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> > To: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2012 5:15 PM > Subject: Re: Lost and Found > > The term was described to me as lying and cheating. Cats don't swim but to > get fish a water cat acts like a fish. In other words, begged and pleaded the > dying father card to get help. Or his mom did on his behalf. I know his mom > is involved with a Mothers Club of that tribe. She has dinners, etc. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ________________________________ > From: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 16:41:18 -0700 (PDT) > To: Hambo Ciek<hamboc...@yahoo.com>; laca...@gmail.com<laca...@gmail.com> > ReplyTo: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Lost and Found > Lori, earlier you wrote "Seems he "water-catted" this group of Minangkabau > association." I'm not familiar with this term "water-catted", never exposed > to it before. What does it mean? > -- Sjamsir > -- . * Posting yg berasal dari Palanta RantauNet, dipublikasikan di tempat lain wajib mencantumkan sumber: ~dari Palanta R@ntauNet http://groups.google.com/group/RantauNet/~ * Isi email, menjadi tanggung jawab pengirim email. =========================================================== UNTUK DIPERHATIKAN, melanggar akan dimoderasi: - DILARANG: 1. E-mail besar dari 200KB; 2. E-mail attachment, tawarkan di sini & kirim melalui jalur pribadi; 3. 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