Uwan Sir, Ambo tanyo ka Mak Google, iko pengertian Kuciang Aia : *Konotasi kucing airdalam dialek pergaulan Minangkabau adalah personifikasi untuk ketidakbaikan seseorang. *Jadi istilah awak juo itu ruponyo.
Jadi paja nan ilang tu, ruponyo kuciang aia..... nan mambuek malu urang Minang. On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Maa Rang Lapau nan Basamo, > Ado nan panah mandanga istilah "Kuciang Aia?" Apo iko istilah baru nan > diadaptasi dari istilah Melayu, atau Indobnesia, "Kucing Air?". > Sabab,dahulu MakNgah alunpanah mandanganyo. > > Istilah ko ambo dapek dari Carito Ajo Duta tatangan "Urang Aaak ilang di > Amerika" bulan nan lalu. Di lua Lapau ambo lai manaruihkan email jo bini > Urang Awak nan ilang tu. Iko emailnyo sabulan kamudian. Sabagian panjang > untaian emailnyo MakNgah kuduang untuak dibaritokan ka Lapau.. > > Wakatu mulo-mulo alah badatak hati ambo ado sesuatu nan indak sandereh > dalam carito ko dengan kuliakik saurang awak nan "banyak aka". Kioonyo iyo, > agak barek caritonyo. .. > > -- MakNgah > Sjamsir Sjarif > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> > *To:* Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, May 6, 2012 11:41 AM > *Subject:* Re: Lost and Found, a month later > > Feel free to forward any parts you want to the list. Anyone knows how to > deal with the office of Agama, I would appreciate any tips or comments, let > me know if you get responses. Otherwise, once again, thanks to all. > > Lori > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ------------------------------ > *From: * Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Date: *Sun, 6 May 2012 10:36:42 -0700 (PDT) > *To: *laca...@gmail.com<laca...@gmail.com> > *ReplyTo: * Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Subject: *Re: Lost and Found, a month later > > Oh Heavy, I suspected it that something i was really strange. Since I > cannot find any answer to your question do not want to get involve in a > famuily problem, may I forward part of our later email to "Rantaunet? > Probably we'll get some interesting comments in culture and personality > perspective . > -- Sjamsir > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> > *To:* Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, May 6, 2012 8:08 AM > *Subject:* Re: Lost and Found, a month later > > Sjamsir, > Thank you for asking. Sorry to say the whole situation is unbelievable. No > he's not back in New Jersey. This is what I've found out with the help of a > friend in Indonesia. My "husband" has a wife of over 10 years in indonesia > and a young daughter with her. Making his visa application false and > perjured and subjecting him to punishment. My friend brought a copy of my > marriage book to the office of Agama and found my book is a fraud and so > was my marriage. All an act supposedly, but it got by US Immigration. So > although I am not married in Indonesia, USA accepts me as married. A > problem I need to correct, but Agama office will not give a letter stating > fraud unless the authorities request it. I am working on trying to find who > that is. My friend visited my "husband" I have photo of him with his wife > and child, photo of his home and a recording of a conversation where he > describes how he got home. In indonesian so I don't understand much but the > gist is: he and his whole family used me to get anything I could send from > america and of course my money. It was his family who sent him money (from > what I sent him) to get home. He came here to see america and get the visa > and benefits of being my spouse here and school. But he missed his family > and wanted to leave. He spent weeks telling me I killed him by forcing him > to leave our home by our argument which is not true but he trieS and > demanding money from me. As I refused to send money, he now wants to > divorce. He believes the visa he has now will allow him entry to USA > whenever he wants for 2 years and he doesn't need the green card that he > left without. So, right now I am working on getting proof of his fraud to > prevent him from ever coming here again, a case to put judgment against him > for money I sent him, and terminating the "marriage". Not easy as getting > things done in indonesia is difficult at best. I also am trying to find a > way to point out to our fine government how they failed as well. Failing to > find a 10 year marriage during months of background checks, holding a fraud > marriage book in their hands and not knowing it, how a "missing person" > gets on an international flight undetected,are all pretty big mistakes they > made. It is all just crazy. Any tips you can give for getting things done > in indonesia would be appreciated. Anyway, I appreciate your asking. I hope > all is well and appreciate how everyone tried to help me before. Now I am > trying to resolve the issues and move on with life. > > Sincerely, > Lori. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ------------------------------ > *From: * Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Date: *Sun, 6 May 2012 04:48:49 -0700 (PDT) > *To: *Hambo Ciek<hamboc...@yahoo.com>; laca...@gmail.com<laca...@gmail.com > > > *ReplyTo: * Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Subject: *Re: Lost and Found, a month later > > Hi Lori, > After reporting the lost of your husband last month and you found him, I'm > wondering the next episode. After he back to his mom in Padang, with the > reason that dad was sick, and hopefully daddy is back to the good health, > now what? Curiously did he come back to you in New Jersey? > -- Sjamsir > ------------------------------ > *From:* Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *To:* "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> > *Cc:* Sjamsir Sjarif <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, April 8, 2012 7:18 PM > *Subject:* Re: Lost and Found > > You're welcome, > Sjamsir > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> > *To:* Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, April 8, 2012 7:14 PM > *Subject:* Re: Lost and Found > > I agree and thank you for everything. > Kindest regards, > Lori > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ------------------------------ > *From: * Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Date: *Sun, 8 Apr 2012 19:13:04 -0700 (PDT) > *To: *laca...@gmail.com<laca...@gmail.com> > *ReplyTo: * Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Cc: *Sjamsir Sjarif<hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Subject: *Re: Lost and Found > > And .. after the whole week I followed this case, I think I had enough. > The initial purpose was to help you in finding your lost husband. Since > you have found and "reunited" in communication with him, the subject of > "Lost and Found" in our email exchange should be ended. The rest of it will > be yours; I do not want to get involve in anyone internal family problem. > I'm glad you are safe physically, with a deep sympathy with your daughter. > Comfort her. Good luck. > > Best Wishes, > -- Sjamsir Sjarif > Sanra Cruz, California > April 8, 2012 > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> > *To:* Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, April 8, 2012 6:51 PM > *Subject:* Re: Lost and Found > > I do remember that ad. Rolaids. After this week I need that and a few > strong drinks. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ------------------------------ > *From: * Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Date: *Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:48:40 -0700 (PDT) > *To: *laca...@gmail.com<laca...@gmail.com> > *ReplyTo: * Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Subject: *Re: Lost and Found > > Oh what a relieve. By the way, remember the ad, "how do you spell > relieve?".. :) > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> > *To:* Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, April 8, 2012 6:41 PM > *Subject:* Re: Lost and Found > > No longer late thank goodness. He actually just texted me he is at > hospital in padang with parents. he said I told him to leave (not actually > true) so he left. Waiting more. The story gets more and more interesting. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ------------------------------ > *From: * Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Date: *Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:37:29 -0700 (PDT) > *To: *laca...@gmail.com<laca...@gmail.com> > *ReplyTo: * Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Cc: *Sjamsir Sjarif<hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Subject: *Re: Lost and Found > > If that's the kind of behavior described and labeled for him by his friend > to you, it's really hard and impossible to take. After he stabbed and > squirted you and then vanished, you should consider to purify yourself. If > your late period bothering you until tonight you should see your physician > first thing when the sun comes up tomorrow. morning. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> > *To:* Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, April 8, 2012 11:41 AM > *Subject:* Re: Lost and Found > > Describes him precisely I guess. Wonder who got stabbed in the back > besides me. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ------------------------------ > *From: * Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Date: *Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:56:13 -0700 (PDT) > *To: *Lori Caponigro<laca...@gmail.com> > *ReplyTo: * Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Cc: *Sjamsir Sjarif<hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Subject: *Re: Lost and Found > > Oh, no wonder I didn't know that idiom of "kuciang aia" in standard > Minangkabau language. It seems to be a new terminology, slang invented or > presented in new generation media face book, probably by recent Highschool > graduates. Even someone pseudo name his facebook name as kuciang aia. I'm > not a member of face book. > Here's what I found as one explains it: > http://septiaone.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/kucing-air-apakah-itu/ > > -- Sjamsir > ------------------------------ > *From:* Lori Caponigro <laca...@gmail.com> > *To:* Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, April 8, 2012 9:03 AM > *Subject:* Re: Lost and Found > > Explained to me in text this way: His name hwa cat means water cat, > kucing air. Meaning someone cheat and liar > > It is words of the text. I copy and paste here. > > On Sunday, April 8, 2012, Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Oh, I never hear of it in it original expression. Do you remember the > sound of it in Minangkabau as they explained it to you? > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> > > To: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > > Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 8:45 AM > > Subject: Re: Lost and Found > > > > Term was explained to me as being Minangkabau term. No news. No call > from him. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > ________________________________ > > From: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > > Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:42:38 -0700 (PDT) > > To: laca...@gmail.com<laca...@gmail.com> > > ReplyTo: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > > Cc: Sjamsir Sjarif<hamboc...@yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: Lost and Found > > Is it an English idiom or someone described it to you taken from other > language? > > Is there any development? Thanks. > > Sjamsir > > ________________________________ > > From: "laca...@gmail.com" <laca...@gmail.com> > > To: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > > Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2012 5:15 PM > > Subject: Re: Lost and Found > > > > The term was described to me as lying and cheating. Cats don't swim but > to get fish a water cat acts like a fish. In other words, begged and > pleaded the dying father card to get help. Or his mom did on his behalf. I > know his mom is involved with a Mothers Club of that tribe. She has > dinners, etc. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > ________________________________ > > From: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > > Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 16:41:18 -0700 (PDT) > > To: Hambo Ciek<hamboc...@yahoo.com>; laca...@gmail.com<laca...@gmail.com > > > > ReplyTo: Hambo Ciek <hamboc...@yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: Lost and Found > > Lori, earlier you wrote "Seems he "water-catted" this group of > Minangkabau association." I'm not familiar with this term "water-catted", > never exposed to it before. What does it mean? > > -- Sjamsir > > > > -- > . > * Posting yg berasal dari Palanta RantauNet, dipublikasikan di tempat lain > wajib mencantumkan sumber: ~dari Palanta R@ntauNet > http://groups.google.com/group/RantauNet/~ > * Isi email, menjadi tanggung jawab pengirim email. > =========================================================== > UNTUK DIPERHATIKAN, melanggar akan dimoderasi: > - DILARANG: > 1. E-mail besar dari 200KB; > 2. 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