> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Burrell Donkin [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2011 10:57 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Top Level Project Name
> 
> On 11/19/11 07:01, Gavin McDonald wrote:
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011 11:34 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: Top Level Project Name
> >>
> >> On 2011-11-15, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Creadur" means creature or animal in Welsh, a language which has
> >>> some sentimental significance to me and which hasn't been mined out
> >>> for software names. If "Apache Rat" turns out to be unsuitable, how
> >>> about "Apache Creadur" as the top level project name? (with Rat,
> >>> Tentacles, Whiskers and so on, of course)
> >>
> >> Doesn't make any sense, so why not ;-)
> >>
> >> Yes, Creadur works for me.
> >
> > You said 'in case Apache RAT is unsuitable.'
> > Can we find out for sure,
> 
> Rat is an edge case...
> 
> "Apache Rat" should be fine as a product name but "Rat" as a top level
> project name probably isn't compatible with the evolving policy thinking
over
> the brand.
> 
> Finding out for sure means growing process, reaching consensus on policy
> and improving coordination between brand and incubator. I've been working
> through it for the last couple of months but the end is not in sight
yet...
> 
> > this is a blocker otherwise.
> 
> Resolving whether "Rat" is a suitable top level project name is a blocking
> issue for graduation as "Rat". Choose a more unusual top level project
name
> means the process should be over much more quickly.

Ok thanks.

I am -0 on changing the name. RAT was simple name and meant what the product
does.

(And by now, folks know what it means to produce a 'Rat Report' , asking
folks to produce
a Creadur Report rolls off the tongue less.)

If words like 'Apple' and 'Windows' can be tm'd I don't see why Rat should
be any different.

But I don't want to hold up the graduation so above are just thoughts I
won't do anything about.

Gav...

> 
> Robert

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