Alastair,

I have tested with 7.1 (77) in XP Pro.  It does the same here.  One side
note I use Unload for all backups of my database.  I name the unload
with a date,time and db name for reloading.  I know RDCC will correct
this issue asap.
Have a good day!

Best regards,

Oma Cox


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alastair
Burr
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 3:49 AM
To: RBG7-L Mailing List
Subject: [RBG7-L] - URGENT: Heads Up for anyone using the BACKUP command


As you can see from the messages below there appears to be a "problem"
with the BACKUP command.

When I first e-mailed RDCC on Saturday I had thought that it only
occurred with a specific set of circumstances.

After getting their reply on Sunday I made the change where I now knew
my code to be wrong and everything was fine again. (Note the days -
thanks RDCC/RBTI for the speedy response.)

Unfortunately, since then I have discovered on checking all my other
output files that there appears to be a more general problem and BACKUP
does seem currently to always produce a zero-length file - but the .LOB
looks okay size-wise.

I can find no mention in any of the recent updates that refers to the
BACKUP command being made obsolete or changed but if I have missed
something then I apologise now.

However, if you are (still) using BACKUP to save your data it may be
worth checking to see if the files produced are as you would expect. I
am using W98SE so it may only be a problem specific to that O/S.
Nevertheless, being paranoid about having good backups I thought a
warning to all to be worthwhile.

Regards,
Alastair.

NB: I have also found good BACKUPs dated 26/08/2004 rather than the
earlier date I gave below.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alastair Burr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: Backup from sys_forms/reports produces zero length file

> Many thanks.
>
> Has this been changed? The example in the help for BACKUP shows:
>
> The following command lines show how to transfer a form to a new 
> database. The first five command lines open the olddb database, set 
> the null value to -0-, create the TEMPFORM.DAT file on drive D:, back 
> up the data from
the
> sys_forms2 table that contains the definition of the oldform form, and

> redirect the output to the screen. Command lines six through eight 
> open
the
> newdb database in order to transfer the oldform form definition (the 
> database you open must not have a form named oldform), set the null 
> value to -0-, and load the form definition from the backup file into 
> the sys_forms2table.
>
> CONNECT olddb
> SET NULL -0-
> OUTPUT d:tempform.dat
> BACKUP DATA FOR SYS_FORMS2 WHERE SYS_FORM_NAME = 'oldform' OUTPUT 
> SCREEN CONNECT newdb
> SET NULL -0-
> RUN d:tempform.dat
>
>
> It's no problem to change it but it was working and the above will
probably
> mislead others...
>
> Regards,
> Alastair.
>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RBG7 RDCC Staff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Backup from sys_forms/reports produces zero length file


>
> Dear Alastair,
>
> The correct syntax:
>
> UNLOAD DATA FOR Sys_Forms3 where sys_form_name = 'AllCopy'
>
> We thank you for your feedback.
>
> RBG7 R:DCC Staff.
> ==============
>
>
> At 05:52 PM 9/18/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>
> >Hi, again - it looks like being one of those weekends!
> >
> >This set of commands has started producing the FileName.fle with no 
> >data in it although the .LOB file looks to be the expected size:
> >
> >OUTPUT FileName.fle
> >BACKUP DATA FOR Sys_Forms3 where sys_form_name = 'AllCopy' OUTPUT 
> >SCREEN
> >
> >It happens with reports as well.
> >
> >I think it must have started some time ago as I have a procedure that

> >backs up forms and reports based on data in the sys_comment column 
> >and
the
> >last good data is dated 17/08/2004. It has worked well for years so I

> >don't often check the output anymore.
> >
> >Again, if this is in update #78 then apologies. Perhaps it would be
useful
> >to be able to view the "whatsnew" file without having to run the 
> >upgrade then it could be seen if what looks like new problem(s) have 
> >already been taken care of?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Alastair.
> >
> >----------------------------------
> >A D B Burr,
> >St. Albans, UK.
> >----------------------------------
> ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >----------------------------------
>

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