On Dec 23, 3:15 pm, "David Faller" <dfal...@charter.net> wrote:
> Exactly!  Talk about drinking the Kool Aid; the consumers all bought into the 
> "differences as improvements", when, in fact, the differences are only 
> differences. > Most threadless stems are just ugly.   I suppose some are a 
> tad lighter, but this was never the reason for the new design.  
>
> I'm certainly not saying there isn't a place for threadless systems, but to 
> declare them as any sort of a wholesale improvement is fantasy.

Well, I wouldn't say that.

I prefer the look and easy height adjustments of quill stems, but they
do have their drawbacks.

How's your quill stem look when you pull it out every year for
greasing?

Mine's always had scratches around the perimeter from it's rotation in
the headset.  The steer tube has always been a tad rusty colored
too.   That ain't so good.

And if you don't pull it out every year?  Good luck getting it out (if
you rode it at all that year).

> And what's all this about threadless being somehow stronger?  Any of you 
> snapped off a steerer at the stem lately?

A 1 1/8" steel steer tube is less likely to break or bend than an 1"
aluminum rod with a hole drilled through it.

Quill stems aren't a perfect solution, but they're good enough for me.

John McMurry
Burlington, VT



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