Thanks.  You are very clear, so I bet you're a good teacher.  I teach
high school English, but it would be great to teach high school
Bicycling.  That should be added to the California curriculum.  I have
an Atlantis, too, with cantilevers that work fine.

Dave

On Feb 25, 8:04 am, Dave Craig <dcr...@prescott.edu> wrote:
> Tocayo (Dave C!):
>
> I've used all of the above items on various bikes, including a 287V/
> linear pull set up karate monkey with mustache bars, and they all
> work. I have to say though, that even in comparison with travel agents
> and normal levers, the 287V levers were my least favorite. I did use
> them successfully (with plenty of stopping power for a 200lb rider) on
> my Atlantis during a month-long, loaded tour. The 287V's do seem
> overly sensitive to cable routing issues and the rear brake never
> quite met my expectations for a smooth pull - though it stopped fine.
> Without looking at your bike, I wouldn't suppose to tell you what's
> wrong with your set-up.
>
> The tektro levers and the identical Cane Creek Drop V's do work great.
> As Jim says, you just hook them up and they work. The only thing they
> are missing is the adjustable brake noodle that comes with the dia-
> compe 287V set up. Without some sort of adjuster, you have to adjust
> the brakes by undoing the anchor bolt and pulling cable to adjust for
> pad wear - not a big deal, but I prefer the fine adjustment of an in-
> line system. So, you could buy some of the tektro levers and use the
> dia-compe noodles or use Jagwire in-line adjusters to do the job.
>
> Switching to canti brakes is certainly another option, but with the
> Karate Monkey, you'll have to add some brake cable  hangers to make it
> work. Again, not a big deal. Setting up canti's is a little more
> challenging depending on the brand of brake. Mustache bars with aero
> levers can present an addition problem when you try to route the front
> cable housing to the front cable hanger. If you have cut your steer
> tube short and have a stem with little rise and reach, it's tough to
> make the cable run smoothly depending on how you've taped your bars/
> cables. However, there are ways!
>
> This is my first foray into trying to help someone solve a bike issue
> online and I hope I've been helpful. I'm teaching a bike course
> currently and I'm checking out the online bike scene as my personal
> project this term. My students are definitely into the on-line
> community deal and I'm trying to become less of a Luddite. I have an
> Atlantis and will soon receive a Bombadil frame for a build this
> spring, so I thought I'd check out this forum.
>
> Standing by. . .
>
> On Feb 25, 8:07 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <thill....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Nothing special with the Tektro long-pull levers. Just hook them up as
> > usual.
>
> > On Feb 25, 8:40 am, Dave C <david.charles.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I believe they are 287V brake levers.  I'm at work, so I can't check,
> > > but that was what I intended to say.
>
> > > Jim, are the Tektros better at this out of the box, or do you have to
> > > do something special?
>
> > > I have a bunch of cantilever brakes lying around, and I'm considering
> > > just using one of those.  I think the road levers I have will work for
> > > that, at least.  But I'm intrigued by the Tektro brakes.
>
> > > On Feb 25, 5:08 am, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > on 2/24/09 8:44 PM, Dave C at david.charles.carr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > I was setting up the front brake on my newly built-up Karate Monkey
> > > > > frame.  I have never used moustache bars, V-brakes, nor the DC 287
> > > > > brake levers.  Please take that into consideration.  I set up the V-
> > > > > brakes this evening, the pads are fairly close to the rims and
> > > > > parallel, but the levers don't seem to pull enough cable to stop the
> > > > > rim when riding.  There is little to no tension when I apply the
> > > > > levers.
>
> > > > > I got the DC 287 levers from someone several years.  I was wondering
> > > > > if they are supposed to come with any others parts besides the basic
> > > > > levers.  Is there a trick or special method to setting up V-brakes
> > > > > with these levers?
>
> > > > > Any help is appreciated -- I am not very experienced with brake set-up
> > > > > and adjustment.
>
> > > > The 287 does not pull enough to be used with V-type brakes. There is a 
> > > > 287V
> > > > which is designed to pull the proper amount.
>
> > > > You can get standard levers to work with V-brakes by using an adapter 
> > > > such
> > > > as the "Travel Agent"
>
> > > > Good reference on brakes and their workings - 
> > > > AASHTA:http://sheldonbrown.com/brakes
>
> > > > - J
>
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