I've had my orange Rambouillet since the evening before riding across the 
country from Yorktown. My '92 RB-1 got twitchy after four hours and I got 
tight, achy shoulders from riding it that long despite bar and stem 
experiments. Funding the Rambouillet was its highest and best use.

The Ram was and has been a stable and confident ride for me. I ride it in 
tight hilly places as well as fairly long flat stuff, day or night. 
Planing, tires, fit, whatever the reason, mine has worked. I've never been 
a stable-keeper, just a commuter/rough stuff bike and a lighter fun bike. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Saturday, April 5, 2014 8:39:57 AM UTC-4, RJM wrote:
>
> I don't have any experience with a Ram except my Roadeo is the same orange 
> color so I can't help you with the steering issue or wallowing through 
> turns. If I may suggest though, I would try some good tires on it before 
> you give it up for good. I really do feel really good fast feeling tires 
> make a bike feel faster. Other than that, if you are set up on the Ram 
> correctly and don't have any fit problems, which sometimes can affect power 
> output and of course ride feel, I don't see much reason to keep a bike you 
> aren't jelling with. 
>
> One question thought, do you just feel a performance difference, or have 
> you kept some track of it through a bike computer?  I'm just curious if the 
> bike is actually slower than your others or just feels that way. 
>
> I do find a difference in feel when switching tires from bad to good 
> though, so that is the one place I would make a change if I was going to 
> keep that bike. 
>
> On Friday, April 4, 2014 12:44:27 PM UTC-5, Jeff Ong wrote:
>
>> So, I've got a lot of bikes and zero cars. Only two are conventional 
>> "road" type bikes (a 2004 Merlin Fortius and an '84 Nobillette). Many are 
>> mountain bikes, and my daily rider/commuter is a 1995 Voodoo Bizango that 
>> I've added rack/fender eyelets to, converted to drops and 2 inch Schwalbe 
>> Marathons, and basically made into a sort of Atlantis type ride.
>>
>> About a year ago, I bought a secondhand (or third- or fourth-hand, who 
>> knows?) Rambouillet (from the first run of framesets, in pearl orange). My 
>> idea was to have a sporty road/light tourer with fenders, since I live in 
>> Portland, where it drizzles seven months of the year. I built this up with 
>> a pretty Riv-like collection of stuff -- a VO triple crankset, platform 
>> pedals, some nice wheels and Pasela 28s, Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters, 
>> bars a bit above saddle height, etc. It's super pretty, everyone oohs and 
>> ahs over it, etc.
>>
>> The problem is, I kind of hate riding it. It just steers like a pig, 
>> wallowing through turns, and it feels super slow to accelerate. I get 
>> terrible pedal strike unless I coast around every turn. I've really tried 
>> to get used to the ride, but I always find myself getting angry when I'm 
>> out on the bike... like "hurry up, man! come on!" I'm a decent enough 
>> mechanic to know that there isn't anything mechanically wrong. I do think 
>> this bike is bigger on me than I generally ride -- I'm 6' tall and this is 
>> a 58cm, and generally I ride smaller than that, although it's difficult to 
>> compare compact frames against this more traditional geometry. The bike 
>> isn't super light (27 lbs or so with fenders and racks), but many of my 
>> bikes are around that weight or heavier.
>>
>> Am I just not cut out for Riv-type geometry? Is it poorly fit to me? Is 
>> there something about the Rambouillet that just makes it slow-steering and 
>> ponderous? I would love to swap out this frameset with something livelier 
>> and more fun to ride (but that can still take racks and fenders with 28mm 
>> tires), and I'm just hoping to not make the same mistake. Any insights 
>> would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>>
>

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