Trail debate? How about Root River Trail system vs. Elroy Sparta? One paved, one not. Unpaved has three good tunnels.
Oh, not that type of trail. Never mind. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > My Ram also feels much quicker than my former Sam. I don't know if it's > tubing or geometry, but the Sam, nice as it was, wasn't a fast road bike. I > daresay that the Roadeo feels faster than the Ram. > > Regarding Riv versus low trail Rando: one thing that Riv has is a > particular handling quality that I, for one, really like. I've not found > this on other bikes, at least to the same degree (so much so that, even > after 20 years, getting on one of the benchmark Rivs after riding other > bikes for a while still surprises me with the difference in "turn in" and > fit). I gather that this "turn in" quality is incompatible with optimum > front load geometry. > > As to "planing" or at least bikes that feel faster, for me that is > separate from handling, since I've ridden bikes whose handling I didn't > particularly like that somehow encouraged me to go faster. I still think > that fit and geometry in relation to build, gear choice and pedaling style > play a part in this feeling. I at any rate haven't experienced "planing" in > the sense of light tubing and speed -- don't know if the general feeling of > a frame being faster counts as "planing"; the lightest frames I've ridden > (at least, I assume that 531C standard gauge is lighter tubing than the > Rivs I've owned) haven't felt particularly spritely. > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:27 AM, RJM <crccpadu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Well, I don't know about the rando bikes since I haven't owned one, but I >> will say that my Roadeo (ligher tubing) is faster feeling and quicker >> riding than my Sam Hillborne. But, I can't load up the Roadeo for camping >> like I can the Hillborne, which is certainly the more versatile bike. I >> don't know if the Roadeo has "oversized tubing" but it is a quick feeling >> bike and livelier than my hillborne, probably because of geometry and >> tubing differences. >> >> Could a rando bike be the end all be all for me? No, I don't think so. I >> need two, one for camping and one for club riding. I don't ride Rando >> events and would feel quite limited with just a handlebar bag for when I do >> go camping/touring, and I feel it may not be quite the best pick for club >> riding. >> >> >> > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
