AMEN
 

On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:44:03 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

> at some point, we're all hanging out in the church of lugged steel here, 
> and I think some reverence is due
>
> On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:54:23 AM UTC-5, JimD wrote: 
>>
>> +1 
>> Had a Madone. 
>>
>> It was a fine bike. 
>>
>> I Like my Riv Custom way more. It rides and handles a skitch better. 
>>
>> It looks WAY better.
>> The Madone was a tool, the Riv is an object of desire.
>>
>> -JimD
>>  On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:23 AM, RJM <crccp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  I've done both carbon and steel. I prefer the steel frame even with a 
>> little extra weight since it is smoother than the madone I used to own. The 
>> Domane might be the better carbon bike for me though since it is supposed 
>> to be smoother than the Madone (speaking in the Trek lineup, of course) 
>>  
>> Honestly though, I'm not seeing the advantage of a carbon fork even 
>> though they sell them as having vibration dampening qualities....especially 
>> when my Riv rides so smooth. I don't see carbon riding that smooth, at 
>> least that has been my experience.
>>  
>> To each his own though. 
>>  
>> On Monday, April 21, 2014 7:16:35 PM UTC-5, eflayer wrote:
>>
>>>  No matter how you fat you are, if you have never had the experience of 
>>> comparing doing a climb on a 17 lb carbon bike and 22 + lb full steel 
>>> (Rivendell), I suggest you give it a try and then get back to the group 
>>> about your opinion of which you prefer. No doubt steel will hold up better 
>>> through the millenia and won't crack in crash, but bikes don't crash that 
>>> often and why not enjoy the ride in as many ways as you can? 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>
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