>I'd recommend Beta Brand bike to work knickers, which have become my most 
worn pants very quickly. Looser than Swrve, tighter than Riv, and made in 
San Francisco. 

Had never heard of Beta Brand before your post.  Decided to check them 
out.  My work knickers arrived yesterday.  Have not tried them on the bike 
yet.  Fit is perfect.  Appear quite well made.  Not as thick as the Swrve, 
better stitching and bottom cinching than the Aero Tech.  

Hope to try them out this weekend.

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