I had a 56 Sam and have an 84 PBH. With noodles it was too long in the TT.
Tried a shorter step but it was a no-go. It probably would have been fine
with upright bars but I was looking for more of a road bike.

Dan


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Minh <mgiangs...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If your PBH measurement is correct, i'd agree with David that it might be
> too long in the top unless you plan to use albatross or bosco bars.  I'm
> similiar measurements to David and my 56 is just about right with drops.
>
> Have you talked to Rivendell?  They can talk you through it.
>
>
> On Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:46:36 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> 54 PBH? Presuming you mean 84?
>>
>> I have an 89 PBH, and a 56 Sam would fit me fine, especially with the
>> 59.5 top tube. I would size down, unless you are planning on riding with
>> upright bars. Then I would say still size down, but you could get away with
>> it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
>>
>> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A dissenting opinion: I had a 56 and found the 59 cm top tube too long.
>>> If you have a preferred bar and a preferred bar position with respect to
>>> the saddle, there are limits to adjusting reach by adjusting the stem -- I
>>> could not get the Sam's Noodle close enough to the saddle with a normal
>>> stem, even with the Sam's relaxed seat tube angle. I could have used a 5 or
>>> 6 cm extension, except that would put too little weight on the front wheel.
>>> I ended up with the bar too high for my liking -- some 5-6 cm above the
>>> saddle, when even for a "country' bike I prefer it no more than 2 cm above
>>> saddle. Top tube length matters!
>>>
>>> I personally would very definitely test ride one if you can, though if
>>> you don't mind very high bars, you have less need to worry about top tube
>>> length. Me, I like my bars where I like them -- it's not a variable but a
>>> given.
>>>
>>> The Sam would be an excellent candidate for upright bars, though.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM, lungimsam <john1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Most people seem happy with the Rivendell method of sizing for their
>>>> bikes.
>>>>
>>>> *If this is your first bike*, just go with their sizing. You can
>>>> always use a shorter or longer stem, and rotate the brake levers little
>>>> more forward or back on the handlebars (if using drops) to try to buy the
>>>> centimeters you need to get the reach comfortable for you. If using other
>>>> bars, then it is even easier to fit for reach because you are talking huge
>>>> sweep back and rise like on the Albas and Bosco bars.
>>>>
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